Tim Edwards wrote:
John Hinton wrote:
Craig White wrote: I don't know, I must be choosing something that's throwing the extra garbage in. And I know, I could write my own KS, but gee, I don't do it often enough for that and some machines vary, for instance some are nameservers some are not. A person can spend a lot of time in dependancy hell trying to get a clean install. If one does select minimal, are you presented with the custom option during install? Or is minimal only available at the bottom of the customization screen? Seems like figuring out what's missing might not be worth the effort to trim the fat? And maybe I'm crazy, but it seems that installing packages like bind during the intial install, configures itself more completely off the start versus installing the package later?
A great point was made..... Custom should be Custom and should allow minimal within that scope. Custom doesn't even seem to have nearly the full package list shown, although yes, it can be argued that some packages simply must be installed and therefore don't need to be shown. Then again, maybe one of my 'other' selections is throwing X into the game?
When CentOS finalizes their 'Server CD', perhaps a copy should be sent to RedHat!! LOL!
Again, I know this is not a 'CentOS' issue. And crap... here I go rambling again! Sorry.
Just to throw in my $0.02: we do minimal installs with all our RHEL and CentOS boxes (both 3 and 4) and it really is minimal - no X, no GUI, no KDE/GNOME or Window Managers. If you're building a server then you know what should be on it so you can just do things like 'yum install httpd php mysql' or whatever to get yourself going. Its a very clean way of doing things.
I do exactly the same process, minimal install, then "yum install <what-I-need-on-this-server>". I have been thinking of trying to produce a list of superfluous packages that are installed with the minimal install.
Has anyone already done this so I can simply paste a "yum remove <non-required-packages>" after a minimal install to achieve a true minimal install?
Dean
On 8/26/05, Plant, Dean dean.plant@roke.co.uk wrote:
Has anyone already done this so I can simply paste a "yum remove <non-required-packages>" after a minimal install to achieve a true minimal install?
The Fedora Minimal project is responsible for shaving something like 50MB of unnecessary dependencies off of the "minimal" option.
Check: http://simpaticus.com/linux/barebones-server-howto.php
And in particular look for "Trimming The Fat" sections.
His purpose is to reuse old hardware for firewall/smtp types of systems that do not need to be performance, but should keep boxes from hitting the trash and should be safe with minimal disk space. The same result is useful for other purposes.
Greg
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