This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
I have looked at Moodle but it has way to many layers that we are not interested in. I would like something like squirrel mail. A simple web login that then gives you access to your samba managed files.
I have repeatedly searched for such capabilities but i have not found any that fit what i outlined above. Is there such a program out there?
Thanks for your thoughts!
On 11/05/11 5:34 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
thats really not a cloud, thats just an internet accessible file server as you describe. the problem is, any system that involves downloading a file, editing it locally, and uploading it back to the file server will fail, as users won't remember to upload, and leave multiple versions scattered about.
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
Vreme: 11/06/2011 01:41 AM, John R Pierce piše:
On 11/05/11 5:34 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
thats really not a cloud, thats just an internet accessible file server as you describe. the problem is, any system that involves downloading a file, editing it locally, and uploading it back to the file server will fail, as users won't remember to upload, and leave multiple versions scattered about.
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
What about WebDav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV ? This should just what doctor ordered.
Vreme: 11/06/2011 01:49 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic piše:
Vreme: 11/06/2011 01:41 AM, John R Pierce piše:
On 11/05/11 5:34 PM, Doug Coats wrote:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
thats really not a cloud, thats just an internet accessible file server as you describe. the problem is, any system that involves downloading a file, editing it locally, and uploading it back to the file server will fail, as users won't remember to upload, and leave multiple versions scattered about.
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
What about WebDav: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV ? This should just what doctor ordered.
Some recomended clients: http://barracudaserver.com/products/BarracudaDrive/tutorials/mapping_windows...
On 06/11/2011 00:49, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google
documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
Google apps for Education is free* http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/
*in the UK at least; and "free" depends on your POV.
D
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Daniel Bird dbird@sgul.ac.uk wrote:
On 06/11/2011 00:49, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google
documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
Google apps for Education is free* http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/
*in the UK at least; and "free" depends on your POV.
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My College at Texas A&M University is also looking for such capability. The issue we ran into is that Texas laws restrict where data can be stored for use by state funded institutions. Ensuring data stays in Texas is nearly impossible with "cloud" services, but apparently Google is willing to make that happen. They have told my University that they will offer their services for free. I would definitely look into it. I don't know the specifics of how it's implemented, but I doubt they would require gmail accounts, because we are looking to do it for our faculty/staff and we already discourage use of Google services for work related material. They will likely integrate it into whatever you already use.
Unfortunately there aren't a lot of great open source solutions out there for "cloud storage" that can compete with Google or others. Besides what's already been mentioned there is Sparkleshare, http://sparkleshare.org/ . I use it personally on Linux and OS X with ease, but the Windows portion is still in beta. Another my organization attempted was iFolder, http://www.kablink.org/ifolder. One I haven't worked with yet, but have seen is http://owncloud.org/.
- Trey
Vreme: 11/07/2011 06:34 AM, Trey Dockendorf piše:
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Daniel Birddbird@sgul.ac.uk wrote:
On 06/11/2011 00:49, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Look into google 'apps' (which is really corporatized google
documents). you edit your documents via your web browser, everything is hosted in googles cloud so its accessible everywhere. It supports written 'word' style documents, spreadsheets, presentations (powerpoint like) and a few other types.
yes, it costs money per person per year (up to 25 users are free), but I'd have to assume there's an educational discount.
Google apps for Education is free* http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/
*in the UK at least; and "free" depends on your POV.
D _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
My College at Texas A&M University is also looking for such capability. The issue we ran into is that Texas laws restrict where data can be stored for use by state funded institutions. Ensuring data stays in Texas is nearly impossible with "cloud" services, but apparently Google is willing to make that happen. They have told my University that they will offer their services for free. I would definitely look into it. I don't know the specifics of how it's implemented, but I doubt they would require gmail accounts, because we are looking to do it for our faculty/staff and we already discourage use of Google services for work related material. They will likely integrate it into whatever you already use.
Unfortunately there aren't a lot of great open source solutions out there for "cloud storage" that can compete with Google or others. Besides what's already been mentioned there is Sparkleshare, http://sparkleshare.org/ . I use it personally on Linux and OS X with ease, but the Windows portion is still in beta. Another my organization attempted was iFolder, http://www.kablink.org/ifolder. One I haven't worked with yet, but have seen is http://owncloud.org/.
Using Google Docs/Cloud or any external storage system has security issues, since you are not owner of your own files. If some security agency decides to browse your files, for any reason, because they feal like it, it is questionable if Google would stop them.
And there are Vendor Lock-in issues as well.
Using WebDav is much better. It is like direct access FTP server. And you can host it on your own server, having no access or ownership issues.
One solution is for users to setup system wide WebDav access (so any app can access them), or to use for example
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/webdav-integration
or
http://code.google.com/p/ooo2gd/
LibreOffice/OpenOffice add-ons for easy access to documents from those/that Office bundle,
or even simly using this guide:
http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Opening_a_Document_Using_WebDAV_over_HTTP...
(less comfortable).
WebDav is like FTP just a storage location, there is no vendor lock-in in documents you must use in order to access your data.
On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 19:34 -0500, Doug Coats wrote:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
I have looked at Moodle but it has way to many layers that we are not interested in. I would like something like squirrel mail. A simple web login that then gives you access to your samba managed files.
I have repeatedly searched for such capabilities but i have not found any that fit what i outlined above. Is there such a program out there?
Thanks for your thoughts!
---- sounds like webdav is what you want
Craig
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
Have you looked at Gollem? http://www.horde.org/apps/gollem
WebDAV / DAV could work too.
Vreme: 11/06/2011 01:56 AM, Barry Brimer piše:
Have you looked at Gollem? http://www.horde.org/apps/gollem
Where are clients for Windows/Linux/Mac?
It should be transparent to Document Applications.., like virtual file system..
Vreme: 11/06/2011 01:56 AM, Barry Brimer piše:
Have you looked at Gollem? http://www.horde.org/apps/gollem
Where are clients for Windows/Linux/Mac?
It should be transparent to Document Applications.., like virtual file system..
My mistake, I didn't recall the drive transparency requrement. He asked for something web based like squirrelmail. Does squirrelmail provide a virtual file system?
Barry
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Doug Coats dcoatshca@gmail.com wrote:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
If you really want the same access from outside, you could use openvpn or pptp, but then you have to support a whole assortment of network login issues from machines you don't control.
I have looked at Moodle but it has way to many layers that we are not interested in. I would like something like squirrel mail. A simple web login that then gives you access to your samba managed files.
SME server would have something like this built in.
I have repeatedly searched for such capabilities but i have not found any that fit what i outlined above. Is there such a program out there?
GUI wrappers over scp/sftp should work (winscp, fugu, etc.) should work if you open ssh. Even normal ftp via browser access should work. For something slightly fancier, you could use the file manager module from usermin, but it is java so it has a slow startup when you have to download the applet. It does seem odd that there is no common user-mode http server to access your own files. Does the "ubuntu one" service require ubuntu?
Am Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:34:09 -0500 schrieb Doug Coats dcoatshca@gmail.com:
This really isn't a CentOS specific queation but that is our server OS of choice.
I manage a student file server and i would like to add cloud access to it. Basically i would like our students to have access to the same files at home that they have at school. This would allow them to start an asignment at home, finish it at school, and print it off without having to worry about losing their usb drive. I want it housed on our servers for backups and ease of access for our teachers when necessary.
I have looked at Moodle but it has way to many layers that we are not interested in. I would like something like squirrel mail. A simple web login that then gives you access to your samba managed files.
I have repeatedly searched for such capabilities but i have not found any that fit what i outlined above. Is there such a program out there?
I think iFolder would do what you want (someone else mentioned it already). I don't know, though, if you need OES (Novell Open Enterprise Server) to make it useful in a larger environment with more users.
It will take care of the synchronisation in the background.
But I'm not so sure about the longevity of the project as such - I don't specifically track it, and it looks like not many updates got published over the last months...
Rainer
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