On 07/08/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.07.2014 14:58, schrieb Adrian Sevcenco:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of Microsoft's "put everything into the Windows Registry" (Win 95 onwards).
Is there a practical alternative to omnipresent, or invasive, systemd ?
So you are following the thread on the Fedora list? I have been ignoring it.
No. I read some of http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=systemd
The systemd proponent, advocate and chief developer? wants to abolish /etc and /var in favour of having the /etc and /var data in /usr.
err.. what? even on that wild fedora thread this did not come up!!!
i will presume that you understood well your information source and you are actually know what you are referring to ... so, could you elaborate more about this?(with some references) i use systemd for some time (and i keep myslef informed about it) and i would need to know in time about this kind of change..
if you need to know about changes the read the systemd-devel list and announcements like http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-July/020903.html
as so often the OP has no clue what he is talking about because he ignores systemd as many other things completly while think at the same time he can have a valid opinion in details
systemd-upstream discusses how to get /etc and /var in default installs empty to contain *only user data* and no default configurations which are placed below /usr and can be overriden like systemd-units from the user
the deeper reason is to achieve over long that a system can boot without any configuration and so provide a clean way for "vendor reset" in case of mobile devices, aplliances and where ever you want to ship a defined environment which can be reset at any point in time
Thanks for info ... actually i am (pretty much) up to date with what is happening (i don't follow systemd-devel but i am following Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers on g+)
My remark was kind of tongue-in-chick with regard to "abolish" word..
And of the OP : the move of defaults to /usr is/was expected as from the beginning the usr consolidation was prepared in order to have a common system shared over network
And about new mechanics of systemd: i can wait to see how seamless will be the use of chef/puppet tools on systemd systems. (and on any other cloud stacks)
Adrian
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Adrian Sevcenco