I asked before (about 2 weeks) about this, and was told it was in testing. I wonder when it will be available. My GF is considering leaving Debian due to it not recognizing her hardware very well, and I thought a CentOS 5 LiveCD might be a reasonable way for her to see whether CentOS might do a better job.
If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that.
Thanks.
Mike
Mike McCarty spake the following on 6/19/2007 3:25 PM:
I asked before (about 2 weeks) about this, and was told it was in testing. I wonder when it will be available. My GF is considering leaving Debian due to it not recognizing her hardware very well, and I thought a CentOS 5 LiveCD might be a reasonable way for her to see whether CentOS might do a better job.
If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that.
Thanks.
Mike
There is a TAO live cd floating around based on the RHEL5 beta. It might be closer to 5 than a 4 live cd will. Search the archives for tao live.
Scott Silva spake the following on 6/19/2007 3:32 PM:
Mike McCarty spake the following on 6/19/2007 3:25 PM:
I asked before (about 2 weeks) about this, and was told it was in testing. I wonder when it will be available. My GF is considering leaving Debian due to it not recognizing her hardware very well, and I thought a CentOS 5 LiveCD might be a reasonable way for her to see whether CentOS might do a better job.
If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that.
Thanks.
Mike
There is a TAO live cd floating around based on the RHEL5 beta. It might be closer to 5 than a 4 live cd will. Search the archives for tao live.
Nevermind. I just checked the torrent and it seems to be dead.
Scott Silva wrote:
Nevermind. I just checked the torrent and it seems to be dead.
Thanks for looking, anyway.
Mike
On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Mike McCarty wrote:
I asked before (about 2 weeks) about this, and was told it was in testing. I wonder when it will be available. My GF is considering leaving Debian due to it not recognizing her hardware very well,
As much as I like centos, when it comes to bleeding edge hardware I'd try an ubuntu or fedora live-cd (current is ubuntu-7.04 and fedora-7).
/Peter
and I thought a CentOS 5 LiveCD might be a reasonable way for her to see whether CentOS might do a better job.
If no LiveCD is forthcoming soon, then I'll burn a copy of the CentOS 4 LiveCD and let her try that.
Thanks.
Mike
Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
As much as I like centos, when it comes to bleeding edge hardware I'd try an ubuntu or fedora live-cd (current is ubuntu-7.04 and fedora-7).
I use Fedora, myself. But neither of us likes churn.
Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine.
Reporting the error to Debian got a response which we both considered less than satisfactory. A new HP printer was unusable. We used the standard reporting technique to report the fact, and didn't even get the curtesy of a response. I cobbled up a file which at least let the printer more or less work, and posted it to them, using the standard reporting technique, and again didn't even get a response. She still can't use it for scanning (SANE won't recognize it), nor can she mount her camera flash sticks. When we reported the camera issue, we were told that the problem was the USB dock she uses. Others weighed in claiming that they couldn't use their camera flash mems either, on a variety of USB docks. They were told that they needed different hardware.
Months later, another guy posted that he had the same problem she did with the keyboard, and was curtly told that he was full of bull, and didn't know what he was talking about. He then contacted me privately, and I told him that my fix was to install a serial mouse. :-(
I don't think of camera memory docks, USB mice, and USB keyboards as being "bleeding edge hardware."
Debian is even worse than FC for taking Linux to be a religion. She's about to shift to Windows XP or Widows 98, and abandon Linux altogether.
Mike
Mike McCarty spake the following on 6/20/2007 1:17 AM:
Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
As much as I like centos, when it comes to bleeding edge hardware I'd try an ubuntu or fedora live-cd (current is ubuntu-7.04 and fedora-7).
I use Fedora, myself. But neither of us likes churn.
Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine.
Reporting the error to Debian got a response which we both considered less than satisfactory. A new HP printer was unusable. We used the standard reporting technique to report the fact, and didn't even get the curtesy of a response. I cobbled up a file which at least let the printer more or less work, and posted it to them, using the standard reporting technique, and again didn't even get a response. She still can't use it for scanning (SANE won't recognize it), nor can she mount her camera flash sticks. When we reported the camera issue, we were told that the problem was the USB dock she uses. Others weighed in claiming that they couldn't use their camera flash mems either, on a variety of USB docks. They were told that they needed different hardware.
Months later, another guy posted that he had the same problem she did with the keyboard, and was curtly told that he was full of bull, and didn't know what he was talking about. He then contacted me privately, and I told him that my fix was to install a serial mouse. :-(
I don't think of camera memory docks, USB mice, and USB keyboards as being "bleeding edge hardware."
Debian is even worse than FC for taking Linux to be a religion. She's about to shift to Windows XP or Widows 98, and abandon Linux altogether.
Mike
Please, don't let her go to Windows 98. Too out of date for anything that "might" touch the internet. Just trying to prevent one "bot" from being added to the herd!
Scott Silva wrote:
Please, don't let her go to Windows 98. Too out of date for anything that "might" touch the internet. Just trying to prevent one "bot" from being added to the herd!
Do you "let" or "prevent" your GF from doing things? I don't.
Mike
Mike McCarty spake the following on 6/20/2007 9:26 AM:
Scott Silva wrote:
Please, don't let her go to Windows 98. Too out of date for anything that "might" touch the internet. Just trying to prevent one "bot" from being added to the herd!
Do you "let" or "prevent" your GF from doing things? I don't.
Mike
Would you "let" or "prevent" her from walking out in front of a bus? Wife, maybe... GF, no!
Feizhou kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 21. kesäkuuta 2007 05:44):
I have your wife's number. Now you must do as I say or else >:D.
B4 that, you could phone this link to her :D
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
Lots of live distro's to try.
Jarmo
jarmo wrote:
Feizhou kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 21. kesäkuuta 2007 05:44):
I have your wife's number. Now you must do as I say or else >:D.
B4 that, you could phone this link to her :D
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
Lots of live distro's to try.
Thank you for keeping this on topic :P
Feizhou spake the following on 6/20/2007 7:44 PM:
Do you "let" or "prevent" your GF from doing things? I don't.
Mike
Would you "let" or "prevent" her from walking out in front of a bus? Wife, maybe... GF, no!
I have your wife's number. Now you must do as I say or else >:D.
I give up!!! You can have her... Just leave my dog, and the six-pack in the fridge!! ;-P
Scott Silva wrote:
Feizhou spake the following on 6/20/2007 7:44 PM:
Do you "let" or "prevent" your GF from doing things? I don't.
Mike
Would you "let" or "prevent" her from walking out in front of a bus? Wife, maybe... GF, no!
I have your wife's number. Now you must do as I say or else >:D.
I give up!!! You can have her... Just leave my dog, and the six-pack in the fridge!! ;-P
ROTFL
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 03:17 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine.
CentOS 4 works great with older hardware, and is supported with security updates until 2012. There's a CentOS 4.4 live CD available through:
http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/4.4/isos/i386/
-- Daniel
Daniel de Kok wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 03:17 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine.
CentOS 4 works great with older hardware, and is supported with security updates until 2012. There's a CentOS 4.4 live CD available through:
Thanks, I pulled that and checked the checksums. I'll be seeing her tonight, and give it a try.
I've heard that CentOS is not the greatest for desktop, but very nice for servers. Would another distro be more suitable for a desktop for a woman who is technically capable, but doesn't want to dive under the hood often, and likes for her new printer "to just work"?
Mike
Mike McCarty wrote:
I use Fedora, myself. But neither of us likes churn.
Her hardware is not bleeding edge, it's four years old. But, when we plugged a USB mouse into her machine, it lost the keyboard. Windows recognizes both on that machine.
Reporting the error to Debian got a response which we both considered less than satisfactory. A new HP printer was unusable. We
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Sorry for the OT rant. I apologize. Debian is a fairly nice distro. It's a little easier for the not completely technical to manage what's on the machine, I think. But she wants sth which "just runs" moreso now than in the past.
Mike
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