I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
On 05/26/2014 07:47 PM, g wrote:
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
So goodby to 32 bit hardware. Thus RHEL/Centos 6 will be around a while longer.
We will have to see where the ARM talk goes. RIght now 'most' hardware is armv7, not v8.
Redsleeve will be active for a while, thus.
On 05/26/2014 07:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 05/26/2014 07:47 PM, g wrote:
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
So goodby to 32 bit hardware. Thus RHEL/Centos 6 will be around a while longer.
Keep in mind that we have a 32bit SIG for CentOS 7. So you should be able to update if you want to.
We will have to see where the ARM talk goes. RIght now 'most' hardware is armv7, not v8.
With el6, arm was out of reach. It required too many code changes to really call it 'CentOS' as an end product. CentOS 7 seems to (per the beta and rc) require far less changes, so we'll be actively taking a look at both v7 and v8 to see what's feasible.
Redsleeve will be active for a while, thus.
On 05/28/2014 09:56 AM, Jim Perrin wrote:
On 05/26/2014 07:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 05/26/2014 07:47 PM, g wrote:
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
So goodby to 32 bit hardware. Thus RHEL/Centos 6 will be around a while longer.
Keep in mind that we have a 32bit SIG for CentOS 7. So you should be able to update if you want to.
What is 'SIG'? Will I be able to do an install of Centos7 on i386 system?
We will have to see where the ARM talk goes. RIght now 'most' hardware is armv7, not v8.
With el6, arm was out of reach. It required too many code changes to really call it 'CentOS' as an end product.
Gathered as much. I believe it is called Redsleeve rather than Centos :)
CentOS 7 seems to (per the beta and rc) require far less changes, so we'll be actively taking a look at both v7 and v8 to see what's feasible.
Starting to see v8 systems in plans, but I have not seen prices. I can afford v7 systems. Got myself a Cubieboard2 with case and power for $90 in the US. If I had been willing to order from China, I may have saved $10 and waited 6-8 weeks. I have a couple SATA drives for starters, but even a 500GB sata is only $40. But the Cubieboard2 is for testing both Android and Fedora, at 1Gb memory it is a little light for a full Centos server. Thus the Cubietruck which comes in at ~$20 more, but still a v7. What will their Allwinner A80 based system cost? Should know that before the summer is out. But v7s will be the platform for 'simple' things like NASs and PBXs, etc. Now if I can only find a 4 port board to add, then I could be building a router as well...
On 2014-05-28, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
On 05/28/2014 09:56 AM, Jim Perrin wrote:
Keep in mind that we have a 32bit SIG for CentOS 7. So you should be able to update if you want to.
What is 'SIG'? Will I be able to do an install of Centos7 on i386 system?
A SIG is a CentOS Special Interest Group. So yes, when the 32bit SIG releases a 32bit port of CentOS 7 you'd be able to install it. It may not be on the exact same schedule as core CentOS (and they wouldn't be able to guarantee binary compatibility, for obvious reasons).
--keith
On 05/28/2014 12:59 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 05/28/2014 09:56 AM, Jim Perrin wrote:
On 05/26/2014 07:18 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 05/26/2014 07:47 PM, g wrote:
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
So goodby to 32 bit hardware. Thus RHEL/Centos 6 will be around a while longer.
Keep in mind that we have a 32bit SIG for CentOS 7. So you should be able to update if you want to.
What is 'SIG'? Will I be able to do an install of Centos7 on i386 system?
Special Interest Group. http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup Basically groups who can take the core distro code and modify/rebuild it to suit their purpose.
In this instance, they're rebuilding to target 32bit hardware. You'll be able to install on an i686 system assuming you meet the ram needs, etc. Yes. An actual i386 system hasn't been supported in a number of years (since el4 maybe? lacking cmov instructions and a load of other fun bits).
On 05/26/2014 07:47 PM, g wrote:
On 05/26/14 22:21, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am digging a bit into RHEL 7 roadmap info.
It seems there are statements that RHEL 7 will only support 64 bit. Is this corrent, and what for Centos 7?
Also the ARM info I found was the target is ARMv8 which is 64 bit, not the ARMv7 which is 32bit.
Any clearification is appreciated.
"just the facts", Robert,
main page: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/...
Then there is this:
http://www.karan.org/blog/2014/03/26/the-arm-plan-for-centos/
On 05/27/14 00:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <<>>
Then there is this:
http://www.karan.org/blog/2014/03/26/the-arm-plan-for-centos/
and, there is AArch64. :=)
the world is changing to 64 bit, so you might just as well 'go with the flow'.
next, you can look forward to 128 bit. ((GBWG))
On 05/26/2014 09:40 PM, g wrote:
On 05/27/14 00:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: <<>>
Then there is this:
http://www.karan.org/blog/2014/03/26/the-arm-plan-for-centos/
and, there is AArch64. :=)
the world is changing to 64 bit, so you might just as well 'go with the flow'.
next, you can look forward to 128 bit. ((GBWG))
With ARM it is in large matter what is available now. A large number of boards are armv7. I am working with the Cubieboard, but the Beaglebone boards are also armv7.
ARMv8 is coming. Cubieboard has said they are designing a board based on the Allwinner A80 which is armv8. So soon enough it will happen. But at what price? TBD.
So for some time we will have armv7 to support. So that blog seems to say that there will be a Centos for it.
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