"Commercial support is currently unavailable, although this is being investigated by the community. The difficulty is that CentOS is a volunteer run effort."
Don't overreact Spiro. I really like your blurb, but the difficulty sentence has a negative ring. Please rephrase that single line and you get a gold-star. ;-)
I (amicably) object to the "currently unavailable" phrase. As has been mentioned support is available. I would suggest the following change:
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Currently the Centos Project cannot endorse any specific support offering and does not directly offer commercial support. Support is available from third party consultants and firms.
Volunteer support is available via IRC (channel #centos), Centos mailing lists and the Centos forums. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
I would avoid making any promises like "we are working on a support program" or "working on an endorsement program" simply because there is no telling when such a program would get rolled out. Keeping people waiting around for a long time is not so good for the Centos image.
FWIW, I think we should lighten up on the original poster. He asked a simple question, he got an answer. There's no need to beat up on each other... it is not constructive.
-geoff
--------------------------------- Geoff Galitz Blankenheim NRW, Germany http://eifel-consulting.biz/blog/ http://german-way.com/blog/
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On
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Of Geoff Galitz Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:16 AM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to "commercial support" page isn't really
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FWIW, I think we should lighten up on the original poster. He asked a
simple
question, he got an answer. There's no need to beat up on each other...
it
is not constructive.
I second that; I've seen too many elitistic linux lists and forums, that scared more people away than actually got the help they wanted. Let's not make the CentOS list one of those.
I think the response from Geoff below is excellent. Its honest, to the point, and understandable.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Geoff Galitzgeoff@galitz.org wrote:
I (amicably) object to the "currently unavailable" phrase. As has been mentioned support is available. I would suggest the following change:
Currently the Centos Project cannot endorse any specific support offering and does not directly offer commercial support. Support is available from third party consultants and firms.
Volunteer support is available via IRC (channel #centos), Centos mailing lists and the Centos forums.
I would avoid making any promises like "we are working on a support program" or "working on an endorsement program" simply because there is no telling when such a program would get rolled out. Keeping people waiting around for a long time is not so good for the Centos image.
FWIW, I think we should lighten up on the original poster. He asked a simple question, he got an answer. There's no need to beat up on each other... it is not constructive.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Michael Semcheski Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:57 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] link to "commercial support" page isn't really helpful
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Geoff Galitzgeoff@galitz.org wrote:
I (amicably) object to the "currently unavailable" phrase. As has been mentioned support is available. I would suggest the following change:
Currently the Centos Project cannot endorse any specific support offering and does not directly offer commercial support. Support is available from third party consultants and firms.
Volunteer support is available via IRC (channel #centos), Centos mailing lists and the Centos forums.
I think the response from Geoff below is excellent. Its honest, to the point, and understandable.
With risk of splitting hairs, I'd rather use the phrasing "Community support is available..." instead of "Volunteer support...". Again, it's the touchy feely stuff that makes or breaks.