You need a Wiki account (FAS):
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing#head-3d4b8815f923a8f137fb466901ca2...
You can contact me if you like to get added to the EditGroup when you've completed the process
It was obvious that I would need an account, so I made one. It was less than obvious that it would be useless. It's only now that I've read the whole complexity of the process to be performed *before* someone could add you to the EditGroup -- it's so unbelievable for a poor civilian that I am that I feel like I am already at Gitmo!
Here's what I could read one should do: 1. Complete the Contributor License Agreement, but this has prerequisite steps. 2. In order to do that, you have to create a SSH key. 3. You then have to create a GPG key. 4. You have to create a Fedora account (not a wiki account!). 5. For that, your GPG key should be published to hkp://pgp.mit.edu/. 6. Submit the form to apply for a Fedora account. 7. Request the Contributor License Agreement (CLA). 8. Edit it to agree with it, GPG-sign it, and send it back. 9. Only now you can contact someone from the EditGroup to ask for the right to edit the wiki page that holds the EPEL wishlist!
To me, it would be simpler to apply to visit the Pentagon or the CIA! I am disgusted by the way the Fedora people handle all this stuff.
Everyone knowing how a Bugzilla works, or even how a mailing list works, can easily find that much simpler ways were available to the public to be able to SUGGEST a few packages for inclusion in EPEL.
When GNOME asked the public in August-Sept. 2006 what new game to add to GNOME games, before setting up the Usage Survey, a suggestion list was open. It was easy to add suggestions there, by simply creating a wiki account, no fuss added, no strings attached.
Now I know I can't expect for *anything* from EPEL. I can only rely on what's already there, plus what we can find in centosplus, Dag, Karan, ATrpms, and a few others.
I am shocked.
R-C
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On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:04:51PM -0700, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:
You need a Wiki account (FAS):
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing#head-3d4b8815f923a8f137fb466901ca2...
You can contact me if you like to get added to the EditGroup when you've completed the process
It was obvious that I would need an account, so I made one. It was less than obvious that it would be useless. It's only now that I've read the whole complexity of the process to be performed *before* someone could add you to the EditGroup -- it's so unbelievable for a poor civilian that I am that I feel like I am already at Gitmo!
Well, I agree with you there. The process is a bit of a pain in the butt, and perhaps not as clearly layed out as it could be. Even when you read the whole thing over a few times. :)
I would like to ask about streamlining the process to make it easier for people to sign up. Or you could feel free to do so.
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list or #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net
.. would both be good places to ask about making the process easier.
Everyone knowing how a Bugzilla works, or even how a mailing list works, can easily find that much simpler ways were available to the public to be able to SUGGEST a few packages for inclusion in EPEL.
Agreed, and hopefully we can get FP to make an easier way to do this. In the meantime, I would be happy to add your requested packages to the list... perhaps a blurb on that page on who to contact to ask about getting additional packages added would be useful?
Now I know I can't expect for *anything* from EPEL. I can only rely on what's already there, plus what we can find in centosplus, Dag, Karan, ATrpms, and a few others. I am shocked.
I think you're being a little overly-dramatic :) but certainly this is something that can and should be able to be fixed... I for one think your comments would be valuable on the mailing list; I'm sure there are others who would like to see the whole process strealined a lot.
Ray
I went ahead and added gtk-qt-engine and kaffeine to the EPEL wishlist:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/WishList
juk appears to be part of kdemultimedia-extras in F7 (only kdemultimedia is available in CentOS/RHEL), so I added that as well.
Ray
On 6/28/07, Ray Van Dolson rvandolson@esri.com wrote:
I went ahead and added gtk-qt-engine and kaffeine to the EPEL wishlist:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/WishList
juk appears to be part of kdemultimedia-extras in F7 (only kdemultimedia is available in CentOS/RHEL), so I added that as well.
Ray
A very minor, and yet outstanding typo on that page ... it says "Package with list"