I just had to browse to a printer... and with https-use-strict at a server higher up, firefox *would* *not* let me get there. I don't see the circa-2012 printer offering https.
Luckily, there was konqueror, which *did* let me go to http://<printer>
I just *adore* SmartSoftware that Won't Let You Endanger Yourself.... Reminds me of Jack Williamson's old novel, The Humanoids. (You aren't allowed to use that sharp knife, you might cut yourself. Or drive yourself. Or....)
mark
On Thu, June 2, 2016 2:58 pm, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I just had to browse to a printer... and with https-use-strict at a server higher up, firefox *would* *not* let me get there. I don't see the circa-2012 printer offering https.
Luckily, there was konqueror, which *did* let me go to http://<printer>
I just *adore* SmartSoftware that Won't Let You Endanger Yourself.... Reminds me of Jack Williamson's old novel, The Humanoids. (You aren't allowed to use that sharp knife, you might cut yourself. Or drive yourself. Or....)
Mark, I fully agree with you... I wish we all were venting out this onto Mozilla Foundation directorate.
<rant> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5 years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release" without decent debugging...). To add to that, how do you like the behavior of browsers: doing search on what you put into location bar, instead of jut going directly to that location? Helps filling search providers databases, especially if they fed you unexpiring cookie. But not all of search engines do that crap, duckduckgo doesn't as far as I know. </rant>
Anyway, question for everybody: does anybody know decent browser to replace Firefox? (Please, do not offer google chrome, thank you again). I use midori for quite some time, I didn't fully switch over to midori from Firefox, however. I didn't get alone with konqueror somehow (didn't spent much time with it though), tried vivaldi browser and didn't like it (not to mention: closed source...)
Valeri
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On Thursday, June 02, 2016 04:25:49 PM Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Anyway, question for everybody: does anybody know decent browser to replace Firefox? (Please, do not offer google chrome, thank you again). I use midori for quite some time, I didn't fully switch over to midori from Firefox, however. I didn't get alone with konqueror somehow (didn't spent much time with it though), tried vivaldi browser and didn't like it (not
I know you don't want Google Chrome and I understand. What about the open- source cousin of Chrome, Chromium? It doesn't have flash embedded in it so you have to install that separately, and it also doesn't come with all the Google tie-ins.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5 years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release" without decent debugging...).
What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie. It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.
On Thu, June 2, 2016 5:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5 years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release" without decent debugging...).
What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie. It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.
Thanks Scott! Palemoon sounds really promising. I even vaguely remember someone mentioned it to me a while ago (you?). It fell off my attention probably because my main workstation is FreeBSD (and such is my laptop). But I'm sure, I will have no problem building palemoon. So, few months from now most likely I will have it s my main browser (if so I probably will volunteer to maintain palemoon FreeBSD port, unless someone else does).
Thanks a lot!
Valeri
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:55:15PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Thu, June 2, 2016 5:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5 years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still without success.
What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie. It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.
Thanks Scott! Palemoon sounds really promising. I even vaguely remember someone mentioned it to me a while ago (you?). It fell off my attention probably because my main workstation is FreeBSD (and such is my laptop). But I'm sure, I will have no problem building palemoon. So, few months from now most likely I will have it s my main browser (if so I probably will volunteer to maintain palemoon FreeBSD port, unless someone else does).
Well, if you want someone to try it, let me know. :) One doesn't even have to build palemoon, you can run their install.sh script and it should just create it and put the files in /opt.
On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 16:25 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
what you put into location bar, instead of jut going directly to that location? Helps filling search providers databases, especially if they fed you unexpiring cookie. But not all of search engines do that crap, duckduckgo doesn't as far as I know.
Yesterday part of England's wired Internet network broke down circa 03:15 GMT.
When I tried, in Firefox, to access local web sites hosted on the server I was working on, Firefox could not find the domains. Instead I got a circular revolving display indicating Firefox was trying to connect to the site.
All those local domains had non-internet names (e.g. no .com / tld etc.) and have IP addresses (10.22.22.124) in /etc/hosts
When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)
How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?
On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Always Learning centos@u68.u22.net wrote:
When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)
How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?
Go to Settings > Search and uncheck “Provide search suggestions”.
Or alternately just make sure that “Show search suggestions in location bar results” is turned off. (Not sure whether it is on by default...)
On 2016-06-02 15:44, David Nelson wrote:
On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Always Learning centos@u68.u22.net wrote:
When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)
How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?
Go to Settings > Search and uncheck “Provide search suggestions”.
Or alternately just make sure that “Show search suggestions in location bar results” is turned off. (Not sure whether it is on by default...)
Browse to about:config, filter on "http", see the long list of sites Firefox needs to contact in order to better serve you. In some cases I serve the sites locally, for others I replaced the protocol string with hxxp. Don't need all the excess traffic and extra eyes on my browsing habits, boring as they may be.
The greatest pain with Firefox came from trying to build from source. They've got very strange ideas of how complex and customized a build system needs to be. Apparently they couldn't figure out autotools and make.
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