With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
On 1/3/06, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
My understanding of this is that as of the 2.6 kernels, the kernels are too big to fit on a floppy.
I haven't tried it myself--just rephrasing something I picked up on fedora-list.
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 11:34 -0500, Matt Morgan wrote:
On 1/3/06, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
My understanding of this is that as of the 2.6 kernels, the kernels are too big to fit on a floppy.
I haven't tried it myself--just rephrasing something I picked up on fedora-list.
That is correct. The kernel is too large to fit on a floppy.
There is a 6.0 GB USB pendrive image .. and a 4.8 GB boot.iso for network installs here:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/os/i386/images/
(substitute your arch for i386 if different)
There is a 6.0 GB USB pendrive image .. and a 4.8 GB boot.iso for network installs here:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/os/i386/images/
(substitute your arch for i386 if different)
I'm assuming you mean 6 MB and 4.8 MB of course :) 6 GB would fit i386+x86_64 bin install with updates :)
nb. No comments on my jigdo thread post?
Cheers, MaZe.
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 17:46 +0100, Maciej Żenczykowski wrote:
There is a 6.0 GB USB pendrive image .. and a 4.8 GB boot.iso for network installs here:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/os/i386/images/
(substitute your arch for i386 if different)
I'm assuming you mean 6 MB and 4.8 MB of course :) 6 GB would fit i386+x86_64 bin install with updates :)
nb. No comments on my jigdo thread post?
oops ... i meant MB :)
jigdo ... I have seen that for debian.
Why not just use bittorrent, do we really need a third way to get isos too?
jigdo ... I have seen that for debian.
Indeed, but there was a lot more in my post than merely jigdo.
Why not just use bittorrent, do we really need a third way to get isos too?
Because bittorrent downloads everything from the net, while jigdo can put together DVD images from CD images, or vice versa, or CD/DVD images from a normal RPM mirror. Bittorrent would require downloading everything of the net in such a situation, while jigdo would download maybe 50MB for a 4CD set or DVD and get the rest from local sources (HDD/CD/DVD).
And why did I mention it? I keep a local mirror of RPM packages but just lately required both CD and DVD isos for friends, so I ended up downloading _EVERYTHING_ again - seems VERY wasteful. Especially considering it's not much extra work, etc.
Cheers, MaZe.
On 1/3/06, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
Nope. No floppy images for the 4.x series. They just don't fit on floppies anymore. You can pxeboot though if the notebook is capable. It's a bit more difficult to set up than "insert floppy" but it's not too rough.
-- Jim Perrin System Architect - UIT Ft Gordon & US Army Signal Center
Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote:
You can pxeboot though if the notebook is capable. It's a bit more difficult to set up than "insert floppy" but it's not too rough.
It's how us UNIX wennies have been doing it since the '80s. Even Microsoft Remote Installation Service (RIS) works similarly. BOOTP (DHCP), TFTP ... done.|
At 11:52 AM 1/3/2006, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote:
You can pxeboot though if the notebook is capable. It's a bit more difficult to set up than "insert floppy" but it's not too rough.
It's how us UNIX wennies have been doing it since the '80s. Even Microsoft Remote Installation Service (RIS) works similarly. BOOTP (DHCP), TFTP ... done.|
I HOPE to be in a position to be doing BOOTP based installs in a month or two...
Got to get a few more systems up and running.
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At 12:25 PM 1/3/2006, sophana wrote:
Jim Perrin wrote:
You can pxeboot though if the notebook is capable. It's a bit more difficult to set up than "insert floppy" but it's not too rough.
You can also use etherboot on a floppy to boot on the network. the etherboot website will tell you if your NIC is supported.
well, well well
the wealth of information you get be asking basic questions!
This opens up a large door. I just happen to be using a 3C574-TX on the one system!
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Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
Nope. Only 4-6MiB .iso (CD) and .img (flash/removable) images. Consider those -- e.g., the .img via USB dongle.
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Will that old notebook even run CentOS?
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
Yes, and a USB dongle is a great solution. ;->
At 11:50 AM 1/3/2006, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
Nope. Only 4-6MiB .iso (CD) and .img (flash/removable) images. Consider those -- e.g., the .img via USB dongle.
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Will that old notebook even run CentOS?
Actually we got 3.3 on it at one point, but Oy was it crazy. My neighbor is a bit of a skilled at linux builds (a debian adherant) and he played the games.
And the sole purpose of this system is to be a wireless sniffer/attacker.
Probably I should just stay with centos 3.4...
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
Yes, and a USB dongle is a great solution. ;->
-- Bryan J. Smith Professional, Technical Annoyance b.j.smith@ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 11:19:25AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
With all this going on, it seems to me there MUST be a floppy image that will load the minimum shell (including PCMCIA drivers!) and all over-the-net installs (HTTP, FTP, of NFS).
That would really help on one old notebook I have.
Oh, and of course this is for CentOS 4.2!
Regardless what other said, it IS possible to acomplish what you want. Yes, you can't fit the install image on a floppy, but you can still boot from a floppy, load the image using tftp, and install.
Just get yourself a floppy-based PXE boot, setup a install server, and you are good to go. I did it a few days ago.
Check http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-sag-en-4/ch-pxe.html
You can get the PXE boot image from http://grid-it.cnaf.infn.it/index.php?pxefloppy&type=1
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