Hi, I'd want to know if the new Centos LiveCd is installable, not only via network, but in a Fedora-Live fashion too.
Thanks in advance.
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Hi, I'd want to know if the new Centos LiveCd is installable, not only via network, but in a Fedora-Live fashion too.
no, its not. Also, at the moment there is no plans to make that happen either.
It's fairly easy to roll your own. I got livecd-tools. I think I got it from the fedora project, but I'm not sure... or maybe from the CentOS Wiki. I also got a couple of Kick-Start files...
livecd-creator --config=centos-livecd-minimal.ks --fslabel=1st_live_cd
Add you have the ISO.
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Hi, I'd want to know if the new Centos LiveCd is installable, not only via network, but in a Fedora-Live fashion too.
no, its not. Also, at the moment there is no plans to make that happen either.
Milton Calnek wrote:
It's fairly easy to roll your own. I got livecd-tools. I think I got it from the fedora project, but I'm not sure... or maybe from the CentOS Wiki. I also got a couple of Kick-Start files...
livecd-creator --config=centos-livecd-minimal.ks --fslabel=1st_live_cd
Add you have the ISO.
The problem with that is ... OF COURSE ... it requires a version of anaconda that is NOT supported :D
That is why the official Live CD is not installable, it requires too much devastation from the original anaconda.
That version does SEEM to work OK, in a NON-SUPPORTED kind of way though.
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Hi, I'd want to know if the new Centos LiveCd is installable, not only via network, but in a Fedora-Live fashion too.
no, its not. Also, at the moment there is no plans to make that happen either.
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
It's fairly easy to roll your own. I got livecd-tools. I think I got it from the fedora project, but I'm not sure... or maybe from the CentOS Wiki. I also got a couple of Kick-Start files...
livecd-creator --config=centos-livecd-minimal.ks --fslabel=1st_live_cd
Add you have the ISO.
The problem with that is ... OF COURSE ... it requires a version of
hmmm... odd.
[milton@pc978 ~]$ rpm -q anaconda livecd-tools package anaconda is not installed livecd-tools-013-4
And I was able to build the iso's too. I even managed to test a couple of them out.
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
It's fairly easy to roll your own. I got livecd-tools. I think I got it from the fedora project, but I'm not sure... or maybe from the CentOS Wiki. I also got a couple of Kick-Start files...
See https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/GetToolset
livecd-creator --config=centos-livecd-minimal.ks --fslabel=1st_live_cd
Add you have the ISO.
See https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/InstallToHardDrive It explains how to create a LiveCD with the ability to install the OS contained on the LiveCD directly to your hard drive.
The problem with that is ... OF COURSE ... it requires a version of
hmmm... odd. [milton@pc978 ~]$ rpm -q anaconda livecd-tools package anaconda is not installed livecd-tools-013-4
And I was able to build the iso's too. I even managed to test a couple of them out.
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
-- Patrice
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced is not an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced is not an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced is not an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
That's a totally different question. You must be a ubuntu user...
There are several ways of doing this. My favorite is to put the initrd and vmlinuz files onto an existing bootable usb (RIP Linux). Specify a kickstart file or specify method=ask on the kernel options.
When I'm working on a machine where the BIOS doesn't support USB boot, I use CD #1, specify kickstart/method on the command line.
2008/2/20, Milton Calnek milton@calnek.com:
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
That's a totally different question. You must be a ubuntu user...
XD No, no, I'm not a Ubuntu user ;) in fact, I prefer Mandriva, or even Fedora, if you are talking about desktop systems... I am pretty sick of the Ubuntu hype...
It happens that in my job I suggested to change from Fedora to Centos (installed on servers) and my boss liked the idea of having a free Red Hat Enterprise clon. But, I had some problems with mirrors using netinstall method, so I was not looking an dummy installation, I repeat I was looking for one CD install. It's different when you can get a minimal system installed (for example Mandriva has a mini CD, with a bare way of installation adn then you can download what you can install what you want, and please, don't say me now: "So use Mandriva", I am interested of using Centos on servers). We have one of the main servers running Centos 5.1 and we will move others from Fedora to Centos... using Xen too :)
There are several way of doing this. My favorite is to put the initrd and vmlinuz files onto an existing bootable usb (RIP Linux). Specify a kickstart file or specify method=ask on the kernel options.
When I'm working on a machine where the BIOS doesn't support USB boot, I use CD #1, specify kickstart/method on the command line.
I sounds interesting...thanks
-- Milton Calnek BSc, A/Slt(Ret.) milton@calnek.com 306-717-8737
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on 2/20/2008 12:59 PM Sergio Belkin spake the following:
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny-IFYaIzF+flcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced is not an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 12:59 PM Sergio Belkin spake the following:
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny-IFYaIzF+flcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build
system.
It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced
is not
an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
OR ... of course, get CD1 and do a minimal install and then use "yum groupinstall" option to install the groups of items you want.
on 2/20/2008 2:17 PM Johnny Hughes spake the following:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 12:59 PM Sergio Belkin spake the following:
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny-IFYaIzF+flcdnm+yROfE0A-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote:
Milton Calnek wrote: > Johnny Hughes wrote: >> Milton Calnek wrote:
The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build
system.
It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced
is not
an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
OR ... of course, get CD1 and do a minimal install and then use "yum groupinstall" option to install the groups of items you want.
If only the first cd had an install option like "linux minimal" instead of going into anaconda and de-selecting everything one by one. Or even a button to "un-select all".
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 2:17 PM Johnny Hughes spake the following:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 12:59 PM Sergio Belkin spake the following:
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny-IFYaIzF+flcdnm+yROfE0A-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org:
Milton Calnek wrote:
Patrice Guay wrote: > Milton Calnek wrote: >> Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> Milton Calnek wrote: > > The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build
system.
> It needs to be present on the LiveCD.
That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced
is not
an official version of CentOS.
Becomes clear to me.
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
OR ... of course, get CD1 and do a minimal install and then use "yum groupinstall" option to install the groups of items you want.
If only the first cd had an install option like "linux minimal" instead of going into anaconda and de-selecting everything one by one. Or even a button to "un-select all".
I am pretty sure I tested it and the only thing one needs to do is to unselect the macro group options.
(the only one of which that is selected by default is Gnome Desktop)
What you said is true of CentOS-5.0 CD1, but I don't think it is true of CentOS-5.1 CD1.
on 2/20/2008 2:47 PM Johnny Hughes spake the following:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 2:17 PM Johnny Hughes spake the following:
Scott Silva wrote:
on 2/20/2008 12:59 PM Sergio Belkin spake the following:
2008/2/20, Johnny Hughes johnny-IFYaIzF+flcdnm+yROfE0A-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg-XMD5yJDbdMSQIYZ4X/+iSw@public.gmane.orgrg:
Milton Calnek wrote: > > > Patrice Guay wrote: >> Milton Calnek wrote: >>> Johnny Hughes wrote: >>>> Milton Calnek wrote: >> >> The anaconda package does not need to be present on your build system. >> It needs to be present on the LiveCD. > > That's where the hacked anaconda comes in... and any CD produced is not > an official version of CentOS. > > Becomes clear to me. >
Right,
And there are a couple other packages too (pykickstart, dosfstools and syslinux) that are modified. For the most part the modified version works just fine, but there are things about it that are not officially supported.
It should be stated the the purpose of the live CD is NOT to install centos (unless you want to, as a convenience use the Network install provided on there, which is fully supported) ... but to use to test your hardware and to use as a recovery disc.
Thanks for all of your comments, really I was looking for an easy way of install Centos downloading one only CD....
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
OR ... of course, get CD1 and do a minimal install and then use "yum groupinstall" option to install the groups of items you want.
If only the first cd had an install option like "linux minimal" instead of going into anaconda and de-selecting everything one by one. Or even a button to "un-select all".
I am pretty sure I tested it and the only thing one needs to do is to unselect the macro group options.
(the only one of which that is selected by default is Gnome Desktop)
What you said is true of CentOS-5.0 CD1, but I don't think it is true of CentOS-5.1 CD1.
OK. Time to fire up VMWare and play some more since I don't have any new hardware right now.
If only the first cd had an install option like "linux minimal" instead of going into anaconda and de-selecting everything one by one. Or even a button to "un-select all".
If I recall correctly when you select all then the same button becames an un-select all... so just push it twice and you're done :D
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 13:13 -0800, Scott Silva wrote: ...
If you are only doing a system or two, you can down the live cd and do a net install from a mirror close to you.
If you don't want to grab the whole LiveCD for a net install, all you really need is the boot.iso image from the install directory for the $ARCH, e.g.:
lftpget http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5.1/os/i386/images/boot.iso
Phil
Milton Calnek wrote:
It's fairly easy to roll your own. I got livecd-tools. I think I got it from the fedora project, but I'm not sure... or maybe from the CentOS Wiki. I also got a couple of Kick-Start files...
livecd-creator --config=centos-livecd-minimal.ks --fslabel=1st_live_cd
Add you have the ISO.
all of this stuff is well documented on the Trac instance for the project.
However, installing from the livecd the way it is setup at the moment is a really bad idea. There are a few options on how one might sanitise the install process - but I am not committing to doing yet another thing :D
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