Guys, I'm trying to update my zoom client and yum (or yumex) won't let me do an update, so I try to remove the installed one, on the theory that if it isn't there I should be able to install a newer one, by doing "sudo yum remove zoom_x86_64" (where my PWD is the directory where the zoom RPM files live) and it tells me "no packages marked for removal.
Reading thru the man page for rpm I can't figure out any other way to do it. Suggestions, any one?
Thanks in advance!
Fred
Hi
Guys, I'm trying to update my zoom client and yum (or yumex) won't let me do an update, so I try to remove the installed one, on the theory that if it isn't there I should be able to install a newer one, by doing "sudo yum remove zoom_x86_64" (where my PWD is the directory where the zoom RPM files live) and it tells me "no packages marked for removal.
This should tell you the real name of the package
rpm -qa zoom*
Then rpm -e zoom... should remove it.
That said, I've never used zoom so I don't really know if they do something special.
Regards, Simon
Reading thru the man page for rpm I can't figure out any other way to do it. Suggestions, any one?
Thanks in advance!
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On 2/5/23 5:19 PM, Simon Matter wrote:
Hi
Guys, I'm trying to update my zoom client and yum (or yumex) won't let me do an update, so I try to remove the installed one, on the theory that if it isn't there I should be able to install a newer one, by doing "sudo yum remove zoom_x86_64" (where my PWD is the directory where the zoom RPM files live) and it tells me "no packages marked for removal.
This should tell you the real name of the package
rpm -qa zoom*
Then rpm -e zoom... should remove it.
That said, I've never used zoom so I don't really know if they do something special.
Regards, Simon
Looking at https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Z...
You should use: sudo yum remove zoom
Commercial companies are notorious for renaming their RPM's to different filenames than what the package variables set. The filename has no bearing on the package name when installed. In this case, the download is called "zoom_x86_64.rpm" but it's real rpm filename with the typical name-version-release.arch may be queried from the download file itself:
rpm -q --qf='%{name}-%{version}-%{release}.%{arch}\n' -p ./zoom_x86_64.rpm zoom-5.13.5.431-1.x86_64
As you can see, the real package name is "zoom".
"sudo rpm -ev zoom" would also be a fine option.
On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 17:09 -0500, Fred wrote:
Guys, I'm trying to update my zoom client and yum (or yumex) won't let me do an update,
That's because CentOS/RHEL 7 is no longer supported. Zoom download page shows 5.13.4.711 as the latest for 7. (5.13.7.683 is the latest for 8+.)
so I try to remove the installed one, on the theory that if it isn't there I should be able to install a newer one
You can download and install 5.13.7.683 but it won't start:
zoom: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by zoom) zoom: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by zoom)
well, as one of the earlier posters showed how, I did remove the existing one then installed the new one (the one that Zoom offers for Centos-7, not the one for Centos-8, which has the problem you describe) and voila, works like a charm!
Fred
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 7:35 PM Ian Mortimer i.mortimer@uq.edu.au wrote:
On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 17:09 -0500, Fred wrote:
Guys, I'm trying to update my zoom client and yum (or yumex) won't let me do an update,
That's because CentOS/RHEL 7 is no longer supported. Zoom download page shows 5.13.4.711 as the latest for 7. (5.13.7.683 is the latest for 8+.)
so I try to remove the installed one, on the theory that if it isn't there I should be able to install a newer one
You can download and install 5.13.7.683 but it won't start:
zoom: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by zoom) zoom: /lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by zoom)
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On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 21:13 -0500, Fred wrote:
well, as one of the earlier posters showed how, I did remove the existing one then installed the new one (the one that Zoom offers for Centos- 7, not the one for Centos-8, which has the problem you describe) and voila, works like a charm!
Yes but that's the old version - 5.13.4.711 not the latest 5.13.7.683. "Check for Updates" will tell you there's a new version but you'll be stuck with that old version until you upgrade from CentOS 7 to something newer.
ah, that's OK for now, as long as it works.
I'm trying to build up the courage to do a full system upgrade to Rocky.latest. I hate doing upgrades, it's such a pain in the rear to get everything working again, and get all my tweaks back into place. I despise Gnome 3+, and prefer Mate. Someone (EPEL ??) built Mate for C7, but the existing binaries for C8 don't work very well, there are none that I know of for C9, and AFAIK Rocky is the only Centos clone that supports Mate. there IS Ubuntu Mate, but I am more comfy with RH-derived systems.
One thing I won't have to do anymore is set up email (used to have my own domain for email, but moved and can't get a static IP anymore, decided it was too much bother to do the ddns thing) along with POP3 for my wife to use. We now just use gmail.
But I see that the time for said upgrade is drawing nearer and nearer.
Fred
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:22 PM Ian Mortimer i.mortimer@uq.edu.au wrote:
On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 21:13 -0500, Fred wrote:
well, as one of the earlier posters showed how, I did remove the existing one then installed the new one (the one that Zoom offers for Centos- 7, not the one for Centos-8, which has the problem you describe) and voila, works like a charm!
Yes but that's the old version - 5.13.4.711 not the latest 5.13.7.683. "Check for Updates" will tell you there's a new version but you'll be stuck with that old version until you upgrade from CentOS 7 to something newer.
-- Ian _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
I've made to move to Rocky 8 after it was released and there is support for MATE and if you prefer lightdm as a window manager. It has some minor quirks, but all in all it works just fine. I've not tried it yet but there is also a Rocky 9 MATE live image available https://docs.rockylinux.org/en/guides/desktop/mate_installation/
Pete
On 2/7/23 23:53, Fred wrote:
ah, that's OK for now, as long as it works.
I'm trying to build up the courage to do a full system upgrade to Rocky.latest. I hate doing upgrades, it's such a pain in the rear to get everything working again, and get all my tweaks back into place. I despise Gnome 3+, and prefer Mate. Someone (EPEL ??) built Mate for C7, but the existing binaries for C8 don't work very well, there are none that I know of for C9, and AFAIK Rocky is the only Centos clone that supports Mate. there IS Ubuntu Mate, but I am more comfy with RH-derived systems.
One thing I won't have to do anymore is set up email (used to have my own domain for email, but moved and can't get a static IP anymore, decided it was too much bother to do the ddns thing) along with POP3 for my wife to use. We now just use gmail.
But I see that the time for said upgrade is drawing nearer and nearer.
Fred
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 9:22 PM Ian Mortimeri.mortimer@uq.edu.au wrote:
On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 21:13 -0500, Fred wrote:
well, as one of the earlier posters showed how, I did remove the existing one then installed the new one (the one that Zoom offers for Centos- 7, not the one for Centos-8, which has the problem you describe) and voila, works like a charm!
Yes but that's the old version - 5.13.4.711 not the latest 5.13.7.683. "Check for Updates" will tell you there's a new version but you'll be stuck with that old version until you upgrade from CentOS 7 to something newer.
-- Ian _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, Fred wrote:
I'm trying to build up the courage to do a full system upgrade to Rocky.latest. I hate doing upgrades, it's such a pain in the rear to get everything working again, and get all my tweaks back into place.
Getting all your configuration into ansible, puppet or the like is a bit of work but a real benefit when it's time to upgrade.
I despise Gnome 3+, and prefer Mate. Someone (EPEL ??) built Mate for C7, but the existing binaries for C8 don't work very well, there are none that I know of for C9, and AFAIK Rocky is the only Centos clone that supports Mate.
I'm using Mate on Rocky 9 at work and on CentOS 8 stream on my laptop. Works fine for what I need.
On February 8, 2023 3:51:52 PM EST, Ian Mortimer i.mortimer@uq.edu.au wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023, Fred wrote:
I'm trying to build up the courage to do a full system upgrade to Rocky.latest. I hate doing upgrades, it's such a pain in the rear to
get
everything working again, and get all my tweaks back into place.
Getting all your configuration into ansible, puppet or the like is a bit of work but a real benefit when it's time to upgrade.
I despise Gnome 3+, and prefer Mate. Someone (EPEL ??) built Mate for C7, but
the
existing binaries for C8 don't work very well, there are none that I
know
of for C9, and AFAIK Rocky is the only Centos clone that supports
Mate.
I'm using Mate on Rocky 9 at work and on CentOS 8 stream on my laptop. Works fine for what I need.
Is it possible to use ansible, puppet or the like to do this on an existing system?
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, H wrote:
Is it possible to use ansible, puppet or the like to do this on an existing system?
It's possible but can be a lot of work if you're not familiar with the software.
A simpler option is to save all your configured files in a version control system (git, subverion, mercury for example). That keeps a history of all the customizations you made and also makes it easy to revert a change that causes problems. There are open source tools to help (etckeeper is one but there are others).
On 02/10/2023 04:32 PM, Ian Mortimer wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2023, H wrote:
Is it possible to use ansible, puppet or the like to do this on an existing system?
It's possible but can be a lot of work if you're not familiar with the software.
A simpler option is to save all your configured files in a version control system (git, subverion, mercury for example). That keeps a history of all the customizations you made and also makes it easy to revert a change that causes problems. There are open source tools to help (etckeeper is one but there are others).
Yes, that would be 1/2 of the challenge. The other 1/2 is the installation of all the software, some of which is done through yum (or dnf) of course. The more challenging part is the installation of various bits and pieces the main apps have been extended by etc.
I agree, not easy to automate.
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