Hello,
I've sent this mail when I didn't subscribe this mailing list. Now I subscribe and I sent again. I'm sorry to bother you.
Our company make and sell some measurement system controlled by PC. We use Red Hat Enterprise Linux on the PC currently. We are thinking CentOS is another option for us. There is no technical issue but we don't have enough information about license.
We will do the following,
1) Install CentOS and our applications on the PC. 2) Sell the PC to our customer. 3) Distribute DVD made from CentOS iso image file to our customer.
Question 1 Is there no problem from the view point of CentOS license?
Question 2 Should we donate to CentOS community?
In FAQ http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=49, there is a description concerning donation when CentOS is used for business. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If CentOS is the basis of your business, you should also consider making monthly donations to the CentOS Project, or even providing a dedicated server for our use. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Best Regards, Shinobu Takasugi
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 10:14 +0900, Shinobu Takasugi wrote:
Question 1 Is there no problem from the view point of CentOS license?
Question 2 Should we donate to CentOS community?
In FAQ http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=49, there is a description concerning donation when CentOS is used for business.
If CentOS is the basis of your business, you should also consider making monthly donations to the CentOS Project, or even providing a dedicated server for our use.
--- I'm not trying to make a Mountain out of a Mole Hill but I have very distinct question since this OP has asked the nature of this.
At the same Faq Page Quoted by the OP is: """CentOS and our logos are a trademarks of CentOS ltd, please contact us if your questions are not answered above."""
Qustion goes to Respins that are redistributed.
Is the CentOS Project ltd. going to Indemnify ME against future legal actions from using Trade Marked Images? Is the CentOS Project ltd. willing to waive the rights of that in a legal document that all Core Developers have to sign?
This has been on my mind for the past few months and I have been advised against doing of using any images contained therein for anything such as a respin that is disted public.
John
JohnS wrote:
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 10:14 +0900, Shinobu Takasugi wrote:
Question 1 Is there no problem from the view point of CentOS license?
<snip> ---
I'm not trying to make a Mountain out of a Mole Hill but I have very distinct question since this OP has asked the nature of this.
At the same Faq Page Quoted by the OP is: """CentOS and our logos are a trademarks of CentOS ltd, please contact us if your questions are not answered above."""
Qustion goes to Respins that are redistributed.
Is the CentOS Project ltd. going to Indemnify ME against future legal actions from using Trade Marked Images? Is the CentOS Project ltd. willing to waive the rights of that in a legal document that all Core Developers have to sign?
This has been on my mind for the past few months and I have been advised against doing of using any images contained therein for anything such as a respin that is disted public.
Sounds to me as though whoever is advising you is a) not familiar with F/OSS, b) the concept of the GPL, nor c) whichever version of the GPL CentOS is under (I don't remember off the top of my head). AFAIK, as long as it's redistributed with source available, and credits to original creators, there's no issue at all.
mark
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 12:10 -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
JohnS wrote:
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 10:14 +0900, Shinobu Takasugi wrote:
Question 1 Is there no problem from the view point of CentOS license?
<snip> ---
I'm not trying to make a Mountain out of a Mole Hill but I have very distinct question since this OP has asked the nature of this.
At the same Faq Page Quoted by the OP is: """CentOS and our logos are a trademarks of CentOS ltd, please contact us if your questions are not answered above."""
Qustion goes to Respins that are redistributed.
Is the CentOS Project ltd. going to Indemnify ME against future legal actions from using Trade Marked Images? Is the CentOS Project ltd. willing to waive the rights of that in a legal document that all Core Developers have to sign?
This has been on my mind for the past few months and I have been advised against doing of using any images contained therein for anything such as a respin that is disted public.
Sounds to me as though whoever is advising you is a) not familiar with F/OSS, b) the concept of the GPL, nor c) whichever version of the GPL CentOS is under (I don't remember off the top of my head). AFAIK, as long as it's redistributed with source available, and credits to original creators, there's no issue at all.
mark
Ohh gee Mark you do not understand the facets of using someones elses Trademarked Images. The GPL does not Apply herin.
Only Non-Profits are Exempt.
To cover ones a** you need legal documentation (Written Permission). Which really becomes a Sticky Situation when Centos is not in the United States or registered here as a NP or PBuiseness. A public Web Page does NOT suffice in my state.jms
Having said that legal docu can be sent to the CentOS Head Chief in any form seen fit, state laws pending.jms
This thread to serve as future reference. jms
John
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:14:35AM +0900, Shinobu Takasugi wrote:
Hello,
I've sent this mail when I didn't subscribe this mailing list. Now I subscribe and I sent again. I'm sorry to bother you.
Our company make and sell some measurement system controlled by PC. We use Red Hat Enterprise Linux on the PC currently. We are thinking CentOS is another option for us. There is no technical issue but we don't have enough information about license.
We will do the following,
- Install CentOS and our applications on the PC.
- Sell the PC to our customer.
- Distribute DVD made from CentOS iso image file to our customer.
Question 1 Is there no problem from the view point of CentOS license?
I don't think there is a problem using CentOS that way.
Another option might be FreeBSD. (See http://www.freebsd.org/) There is definitely no problem with their license and it is a very good server OS.
Question 2 Should we donate to CentOS community?
Of course, donations are always appropriate, especially if you are making money from the product. But, it is not a legal requirement. Same is true of FreeBSD.
In FAQ http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=49, there is a description concerning donation when CentOS is used for business.
If CentOS is the basis of your business, you should also consider making monthly donations to the CentOS Project, or even providing a dedicated server for our use.
Best Regards, Shinobu Takasugi --
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