Sender: centos-bounces@centos.org On-Behalf-Of: m.roth@5-cent.us Subject: Re: [CentOS] TOT - Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ? Message-Id: a6d79e0d18fdd5ac7d1c714e45d9ed3d.squirrel@host290.hostmonster.com Recipient: ibudiman@overstock.com
This is...weird.
Not sure why this suddenly showed, a week later, nor why it showed to me, on my webmail/squirrelmail/ensignia that I use at work for this account, as html/an attachment.
mark
m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/10/2014 12:47 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Always Learning wrote:
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 10:39 -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
mark "we won't talk about the month I punch Addressographplates...."
Addressograph plates? That is really ancient ! but they were incredible useful in those days.
Yeah... but did you ever do it, or see it done? Forget the old manual Underwood, this required actual *force* hitting the keys (yes, the machine was electric). No speed, either - the actuator arms had to hit the metal. WHAM-WHAM-WHAM-WHAM
But the Linotype melted the lead and you pressed which key you wanted the lead to flow into. Kind of. It was cool to see that bar of lead slowly get lowered into the melting pot and finally out the other side came the lead on steel printing plate. Though one I saw only made rows of text that then had to be lined up on the steel plate. I guess it was for allowing inclusion of pictures and such.
Ah how xerography changed things.
And that is again the point. We do things one way because with a big enough hammer we can get it to work. Then new ways and new goals come along and the old stuff heads off for the big melting pot in the backyard.
But with a good hammer, you can force the lead into the new plates without melting....
mark (who's taken at least part of this offlist)
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On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:47 -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
This is...weird.
Not sure why this suddenly showed, a week later, nor why it showed to me, on my webmail/squirrelmail/ensignia that I use at work for this account, as html/an attachment.
Reading the headers of that strange message
Message-ID:
9a5cc3bb-5e2f-4b52-8ebc-c2a8341b0ea2@journal.report.generator
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:39:15 +0000
one notices (well I did) that the email left the sender's computer system on 16 July 2014. Here is the relevant header
Received: from Pickup by OCCASHUB03.overstock.com with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:39:45 +0000
As you may appreciate, anything is possible with M$ :-)
Always Learning wrote:
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:47 -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
This is...weird.
Not sure why this suddenly showed, a week later, nor why it showed to me, on my webmail/squirrelmail/ensignia that I use at work for this
account,
as html/an attachment.
Reading the headers of that strange message
Message-ID:
9a5cc3bb-5e2f-4b52-8ebc-c2a8341b0ea2@journal.report.generator
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:39:15 +0000
one notices (well I did) that the email left the sender's computer system on 16 July 2014. Here is the relevant header
Received: from Pickup by OCCASHUB03.overstock.com with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:39:45 +0000
I didn't even think to look at the header. overstock.com? Huh?
As you may appreciate, anything is possible with M$ :-)
That's deeply weird. My email, from hostmonster, my hosting provider, (and my domain is, of course, hosted on linux) goes through their email gateway of unifiedlayer. How on earth did it get through overstock? I need to go see if there's any more in that header....
Thanks, Paul.
mark
Always Learning wrote:
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 11:47 -0400, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
This is...weird.
Not sure why this suddenly showed, a week later, nor why it showed to me,on my webmail/squirrelmail/ensignia that I use at work for this
account,
as html/an attachment.
Reading the headers of that strange message
Message-ID:
9a5cc3bb-5e2f-4b52-8ebc-c2a8341b0ea2@journal.report.generator
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:39:15 +0000
one notices (well I did) that the email left the sender's computer system on 16 July 2014. Here is the relevant header
Received: from Pickup by OCCASHUB03.overstock.com with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:39:45 +0000
<snip> Went back and looked at the full header... and sent a note to my hosting provider, to see if they have a clue, and I'm wondering about a man-in-the-middle attack. It *looks* to me as though it was resent, not forwarded, from overstock.com as HTML email, too....
This just gets weirder.
mark
On Jul 16, 2014, at 3:30 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Went back and looked at the full header... and sent a note to my hosting provider, to see if they have a clue, and I'm wondering about a man-in-the-middle attack. It *looks* to me as though it was resent, not forwarded, from overstock.com as HTML email, too....
This just gets weirder.
Maybe someone who is on the list in that domain redirected the message in a funky way that ended up going back to the list? I know some MUAs can resend a message to a new destination as if that was the original target, with the original headers and an envelope sender based on the from header.
— Mark Tinberg, System Administrator Division of Information Technology - Network Services University of Wisconsin - Madison mtinberg@wisc.edu
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