Hi,
I have a machine with a BIOS that does not permit DVD installation. It accepts everything else including some old superseded media types.
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent ?
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Thank you.
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
Hi,
I have a machine with a BIOS that does not permit DVD installation. It accepts everything else including some old superseded media types.
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent ?
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Paul, you can go directly to the mirror server I maintain, it allows direct download of DVD images:
http://bay.uchicago.edu/centos
You may prefer mirror geographically closer to you.
Good luck.
Valeri
Thank you.
-- Regards,
Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Valeri,
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent ?
Paul, you can go directly to the mirror server I maintain, it allows direct download of DVD images:
I looked, but could not find a non-Torrent option for C6 combined parts 1 and 2 ..............
Index of /centos/6.9/isos/x86_64 * Parent Directory * 0_README.txt * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-LiveDVD.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1to2.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD2.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-minimal.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-minimal.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-netinstall.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-netinstall.torrent * README.txt * md5sum.txt * md5sum.txt.asc * sha1sum.txt * sha1sum.txt.asc * sha256sum.txt * sha256sum.txt.asc
I sought: CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1to2.iso
I suppose I could copy DVD1 to a USB stick and then DVD2 to another USB stick ?
It would be nice to have everything (part 1 and part 2) on the same bootable USB stick.
Thank you.
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:58 pm, Always Learning wrote:
Hi Valeri,
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent
?
Paul, you can go directly to the mirror server I maintain, it allows direct download of DVD images:
I looked, but could not find a non-Torrent option for C6 combined parts 1 and 2 ..............
Index of /centos/6.9/isos/x86_64 * Parent Directory * 0_README.txt * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-LiveDVD.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1to2.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD2.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-minimal.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-minimal.torrent * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-netinstall.iso * CentOS-6.9-x86_64-netinstall.torrent * README.txt * md5sum.txt * md5sum.txt.asc * sha1sum.txt * sha1sum.txt.asc * sha256sum.txt * sha256sum.txt.asc
I sought: CentOS-6.9-x86_64-bin-DVD1to2.iso
Aha, now I understand what you want. It probably doesn't exist on master repository server. You can re-master DVD from two of them or from a copy of content of both in some directory on hard drive.
Thanks. Valeri
I suppose I could copy DVD1 to a USB stick and then DVD2 to another USB stick ?
It would be nice to have everything (part 1 and part 2) on the same bootable USB stick.
Thank you.
-- Regards,
Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 07:59 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Aha, now I understand what you want. It probably doesn't exist on master repository server. You can re-master DVD from two of them or from a copy of content of both in some directory on hard drive.
Unsure how to remaster two DVDs, total 6GB?, onto a USB stick. I can copy both DVDs to a directory. To make the directory contents into a single ISO is, currently, beyond my knowledge but will Google.
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 07:59 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Aha, now I understand what you want. It probably doesn't exist on master repository server. You can re-master DVD from two of them or from a copy of content of both in some directory on hard drive.
Unsure how to remaster two DVDs, total 6GB?, onto a USB stick. I can copy both DVDs to a directory. To make the directory contents into a single ISO is, currently, beyond my knowledge but will Google.
Just drop all rpms into the Packages Dir and you are done
Cheers
Juergen
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Aha, now I understand what you want. It probably doesn't exist on master repository server. You can re-master DVD from two of them or from a copy of content of both in some directory on hard drive.
Unsure how to remaster two DVDs, total 6GB?, onto a USB stick. I can copy both DVDs to a directory. To make the directory contents into a single ISO is, currently, beyond my knowledge but will Google.
Just drop all rpms into the Packages Dir and you are done
Cheers
Juergen
Oops, sorry i forgot that you should do a "createrepo /path/to/Packages after that (this will re-create the rpm index)
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On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 07:56 +0000, Jürgen Gotteswinter wrote:
Unsure how to remaster two DVDs, total 6GB?, onto a USB stick. I can copy both DVDs to a directory. To make the directory contents into a single ISO is, currently, beyond my knowledge but will Google.
Just drop all rpms into the Packages Dir and you are done
Oops, sorry i forgot that you should do a "createrepo /path/to/Packages after that (this will re-create the rpm index)
Ah great. Je vous merci. Danke vielmals.
Centos is true liberation from the dull and dreary world of Windoze. Happiness is an operating system as flexible as free Centos. Thank you to everyone who makes, and has made, this possible.
On 23/04/18 14:22, Always Learning wrote:
On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 07:56 +0000, Jürgen Gotteswinter wrote:
Unsure how to remaster two DVDs, total 6GB?, onto a USB stick. I can copy both DVDs to a directory. To make the directory contents into a single ISO is, currently, beyond my knowledge but will Google.
Just drop all rpms into the Packages Dir and you are done
Oops, sorry i forgot that you should do a "createrepo /path/to/Packages after that (this will re-create the rpm index)
Ah great. Je vous merci. Danke vielmals.
Centos is true liberation from the dull and dreary world of Windoze. Happiness is an operating system as flexible as free Centos. Thank you to everyone who makes, and has made, this possible.
You might also want to look at repoview(8). It will generate a searchable website for you. See https://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/7/x86_64/repoview/ for example
On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 22:44 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote:
You might also want to look at repoview(8). It will generate a searchable website for you. See https://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/7/x86_64/repoview/ for example
Thank you. I was unaware of repoview's existence.
The information provided by your illustration, for example:
php56u-pecl-imagick - Provides a wrapper to the ImageMagick library
prompts me into wondering whether Centos has a searchable database for people to discover, in this instance, all the ImageMagick packages or all the PHP 5.6 packages.
Am 25.04.2018 um 12:33 schrieb Always Learning centos@u68.u22.net:
On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 22:44 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote:
You might also want to look at repoview(8). It will generate a searchable website for you. See https://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/7/x86_64/repoview/ for example
Thank you. I was unaware of repoview's existence.
The information provided by your illustration, for example:
php56u-pecl-imagick - Provides a wrapper to the ImageMagick library
prompts me into wondering whether Centos has a searchable database for people to discover, in this instance, all the ImageMagick packages or all the PHP 5.6 packages.
yum search "php"
yum search "magick"
-- LF
On 04/18/2018 09:58 PM, Always Learning wrote:
... It would be nice to have everything (part 1 and part 2) on the same bootable USB stick.
You should be able to install most things with just DVD1, and there are good instructions on the CentOS Wiki about how to go about generating the USB stick ( https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey ), although I use ddrescue over just dd since it will optimize the blocksize for a bit faster read and write.
There is a CentOS Wiki article on the subject of merging split ISOs into a single ISO; see https://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/CDtoDVDMedia (this covers merging multiple ISOs into a single ISO, which was originally most useful for taking multiple CDs and making a single DVD, but also works for merging two DVD ISOs into a single DVD ISO; I have used this script before). Note that some have reported 'Insert Disc 2' prompts during kickstart installations, so it is possible that if you select something that is on DVD2 it may ask for DVD2 during install; I haven't tried it in so long that I don't know what it will do with current CentOS 6. I used this scripts years ago for merging CentOS 4 and 5 media to DVD for installation, and the basic structures in C6 still work with it. You need 3X the space of the full distribution size; enough for the two source DVDs, plus the unpacked package tree, plus the output single DVD.
As to DVD installation, are you sure the server has a DVD drive and not just a CD drive? (I have run into this before, with a fairly recent server). I have also run into media compatibility issues where the DVD-ROM drive would not read the DVD media I was using; I have also run into DVD drives being sensitive to +R versus -R as well as the speed of the DVD writing. DVD writers will have better compatibility, and most servers can have those as options if an optical bay is even included.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
Hi,
I have a machine with a BIOS that does not permit DVD installation. It accepts everything else including some old superseded media types.
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent ?
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Paul, you can go directly to the mirror server I maintain, it allows direct download of DVD images:
http://bay.uchicago.edu/centos
You may prefer mirror geographically closer to you.
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
You can be given an ISO from a shady character under a railway bridge, and as long as the ISO matches the checksums you can source directly from the CentOS https site (https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS7), it's as good as any other copy that's ever been in existence.
Why is a torrent source any worse than a copy off any of the official mirrors?
Also, why not just make your life easy and do a netinstall? That way you don't have to try to do anything you're not comfortable with.
jh
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 09:40 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
Having, successfully so far, resisted/repelled several devious attacks from the Russians, I am keen to maintain a clean, and thus secure, system as possible.
You can be given an ISO from a shady character under a railway bridge,
I'd throw it away unused. Do not want the associated risks.
Also, why not just make your life easy and do a netinstall?
That's a good idea. Never done one of them before. I can put C6 on a CD and a USB and boot from either.
That way you don't have to try to do anything you're not comfortable with.
Comfort-ability is not my criteria. The BIOS is supposed to be 4 or 5 years old. It won't boot from DVDs, yet it will boot from zip disks and other historic relics (LH120, I think one of the other choices was).
Have a nice day.
Thank you.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, Always Learning wrote:
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 09:40 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
Having, successfully so far, resisted/repelled several devious attacks from the Russians, I am keen to maintain a clean, and thus secure, system as possible.
You can be given an ISO from a shady character under a railway bridge,
I'd throw it away unused. Do not want the associated risks.
This is where you're making a mistake. If you're verifying checksums, you're not taking an additional risk, beyond the risk of a hash collision. If you're worried about sha256 hash collisions, I think you're worrying about the wrong things.
The important bit is getting the hash from a secure source, and bothering the check it.
jh
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
Having, successfully so far, resisted/repelled several devious attacks from the Russians, I am keen to maintain a clean, and thus secure, system as possible.
If you don't trust the sha256 hashes, there's no reason to trust a download using https.
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 14:44 -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 09:40 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
Having, successfully so far, resisted/repelled several devious attacks from the Russians, I am keen to maintain a clean, and thus secure, system as possible.
If you don't trust the sha256 hashes, there's no reason to trust a download using https.
Never said I do not trust the hashes !
Have a nice day.
On 19 April 2018 at 05:04, Always Learning centos@u68.u22.net wrote:
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 09:40 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
I have an aversion to using anything that comes from unknown sources, as used by Torrent.
Can we also challenge this "torrents are untrustworthy" attitude.
Having, successfully so far, resisted/repelled several devious attacks from the Russians, I am keen to maintain a clean, and thus secure, system as possible.
You can be given an ISO from a shady character under a railway bridge,
I'd throw it away unused. Do not want the associated risks.
Also, why not just make your life easy and do a netinstall?
That's a good idea. Never done one of them before. I can put C6 on a CD and a USB and boot from either.
That way you don't have to try to do anything you're not comfortable with.
Comfort-ability is not my criteria. The BIOS is supposed to be 4 or 5 years old. It won't boot from DVDs, yet it will boot from zip disks and other historic relics (LH120, I think one of the other choices was).
As with others.. this sounds 15 years old. If it says it is 4 or 5 years old.. I would be more leery of the hardware than torrents. (And I am very very leery of torrents but mostly because I spend time explaining to people that if your university blocks them I can't fix it for you). In any case, I would do the following:
Get a cdrom with CD1 data as this installs 99% of my systems I have dealt with. [I think out of a couple hundred, that 2 or 3 needed anything from the second disk when installing some obscure thing.] The second disk is mostly stuff you can install later. If you need more than that, you need to mirror the distribution locally and set up a pxe/tftpboot system which points to that mirror.
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 18:59 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 19 April 2018 at 05:04, Always Learning centos@u68.u22.net wrote:
Comfort-ability is not my criteria. The BIOS is supposed to be 4 or 5 years old. It won't boot from DVDs, yet it will boot from zip disks and other historic relics (LH120, I think one of the other choices was).
I was shocked when it would not install from a DVD.
As with others.. this sounds 15 years old. If it says it is 4 or 5 years old.. I would be more leery of the hardware than torrents.
Can't explain the "relic" new BIOS received in February 2013.
Get a cdrom with CD1 data as this installs 99% of my systems I have dealt with. [I think out of a couple hundred, that 2 or 3 needed anything from the second disk when installing some obscure thing.] The second disk is mostly stuff you can install later. If you need more than that, you need to mirror the distribution locally and set up a pxe/tftpboot system which points to that mirror.
Thank you. I like your idea of doing a DD from DVD1 to a USB stick and installing from the USB.
Have a nice day.
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, John Hodrien wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
I have a machine with a BIOS that does not permit DVD installation. It accepts everything else including some old superseded media types.
Doesn't sound 4 to 5 years old, sounds 14 or 15 years old.
Is it possible to download C6 combined parts 1 and 2 not using Torrent ?
Only manually as they are distinct ISO images, each of which would have to be obtained first then some work done to merge them. The CentOS project could produce an all-on-one image but I don't know if it would be popular enough for them to expend the energy -- maybe see if a SIG can be formed for the purpose.
Why is a torrent source any worse than a copy off any of the official mirrors?
No reason should be necessary, but I've found it difficult to explain to security departments, and from time to time it attracts unwanted attention and can take a while for the incoming connections to stop (on a very limited bandwidth and/or high RTT service this can be quite annoying).
Also, why not just make your life easy and do a netinstall? That way you don't have to try to do anything you're not comfortable with.
Typically because a network connection isn't available and/or wanted during install. There's also the CentOS provided iPXE service if netinstall is acceptable, or a local netinstall e.g., using cobbler.
/mark
On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 14:22 -0700, Mark Milhollan wrote:
On Wed, April 18, 2018 8:36 pm, Always Learning wrote:
I have a machine with a BIOS that does not permit DVD installation. It accepts everything else including some old superseded media types.
Doesn't sound 4 to 5 years old, sounds 14 or 15 years old.
I agree. The machine was brought, new, and received on 22 February 2013.
From memory the BIOS displays "2013".
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