Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure how many users you plan on serving with that Asterisk box... that does seem like a bit of overkill though. I've read where a couple of hundred users are served quite well with a 1ghz CPU and a gig of RAM (single CPU).
CentOS has a 64bit edition for the AMD CPU. Dual-Core does not require anything special from the OS, no more that Hyperthreading did. The OS just sees 2 CPUs per DIE. So, the OS will see 4 CPUs. The only issue you will need to deal with is the 64-bit compatibilities. I've played with the 64-bit versions and you may run into some compatibility issues for software not specifically compiled for 64-bit and have to re-compile rather than use the binaries or straight RPMs.
Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Erick Perez Sent: Sat, 5/13/2006 12:21am To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Scott, The system will handle the load of 30 call center agents and go up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations of every and all agents/calls. So transcoding and/or I/O bottlenecks are an issue. That's why might seem overkill.
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
thanks, On 5/13/06, C.. Scott Heisler Scott.Heisler@huntleighusa.com wrote:
I'm not sure how many users you plan on serving with that Asterisk box... that does seem like a bit of overkill though. I've read where a couple of hundred users are served quite well with a 1ghz CPU and a gig of RAM (single CPU).
CentOS has a 64bit edition for the AMD CPU. Dual-Core does not require anything special from the OS, no more that Hyperthreading did. The OS just sees 2 CPUs per DIE. So, the OS will see 4 CPUs. The only issue you will need to deal with is the 64-bit compatibilities. I've played with the 64-bit versions and you may run into some compatibility issues for software not specifically compiled for 64-bit and have to re-compile rather than use the binaries or straight RPMs.
Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Erick Perez Sent: Sat, 5/13/2006 12:21am To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 08:56 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
Scott, The system will handle the load of 30 call center agents and go up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations of every and all agents/calls. So transcoding and/or I/O bottlenecks are an issue. That's why might seem overkill.
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
If you are going to compile items on an x86_64 box using the CentOS x86_64 arch, there are gotchas introduced by multiple libraries.
What you want to make sure you have is a pure x86_64 build environment to build all x86_64 files.
You may need these 2 files that are i[3,4,5,6]86 (and only these x86 files ... any others can produce badly built binaries).
glibc.i686 glibc-devel.i386
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
As far as all the built in server services, everything on x86_64 from a server perspective works fine (sendmail, apache, gcc, rpm-build, etc.) ... it is the mixing of shared libraries that will cause you problems if you want to build.
On 5/13/06, C.. Scott Heisler Scott.Heisler@huntleighusa.com wrote:
I'm not sure how many users you plan on serving with that Asterisk
box... that does seem like a bit of overkill though. I've read where a couple of hundred users are served quite well with a 1ghz CPU and a gig of RAM (single CPU).
CentOS has a 64bit edition for the AMD CPU. Dual-Core does not
require anything special from the OS, no more that Hyperthreading did. The OS just sees 2 CPUs per DIE. So, the OS will see 4 CPUs. The only issue you will need to deal with is the 64-bit compatibilities. I've played with the 64-bit versions and you may run into some compatibility issues for software not specifically compiled for 64-bit and have to re-compile rather than use the binaries or straight RPMs.
Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Erick Perez Sent: Sat, 5/13/2006 12:21am To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Johnny,
Thanks for expanding further on this. What you described was exactly what I was referencing. All of the stock applications work fine. I just ran into some problems with 3rd party stuff that didn't have specific binaries for the 64-bit OS.
Scott
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 6:26 AM To: CentOS ML Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 08:56 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
Scott, The system will handle the load of 30 call center agents and go up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations of every and all agents/calls. So transcoding and/or I/O bottlenecks are an issue. That's why might seem overkill.
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
If you are going to compile items on an x86_64 box using the CentOS x86_64 arch, there are gotchas introduced by multiple libraries.
What you want to make sure you have is a pure x86_64 build environment to build all x86_64 files.
You may need these 2 files that are i[3,4,5,6]86 (and only these x86 files ... any others can produce badly built binaries).
glibc.i686 glibc-devel.i386
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
As far as all the built in server services, everything on x86_64 from a server perspective works fine (sendmail, apache, gcc, rpm-build, etc.) ... it is the mixing of shared libraries that will cause you problems if you want to build.
On 5/13/06, C.. Scott Heisler Scott.Heisler@huntleighusa.com wrote:
I'm not sure how many users you plan on serving with that Asterisk
box... that does seem like a bit of overkill though. I've read where a couple of hundred users are served quite well with a 1ghz CPU and a gig of RAM (single CPU).
CentOS has a 64bit edition for the AMD CPU. Dual-Core does not
require anything special from the OS, no more that Hyperthreading did. The OS just sees 2 CPUs per DIE. So, the OS will see 4 CPUs. The only issue you will need to deal with is the 64-bit compatibilities. I've played with the 64-bit versions and you may run into some compatibility issues for software not specifically compiled for 64-bit and have to re-compile rather than use the binaries or straight RPMs.
Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Erick Perez Sent: Sat, 5/13/2006 12:21am To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
In my specific case. Asterisk will be the main app in that box, so everything will be built against x86_64 libraries.
On 5/15/06, C.. Scott Heisler Scott.Heisler@huntleighusa.com wrote:
Johnny,
Thanks for expanding further on this. What you described was exactly what I was referencing. All of the stock applications work fine. I just ran into some problems with 3rd party stuff that didn't have specific binaries for the 64-bit OS.
Scott
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 6:26 AM To: CentOS ML Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 08:56 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
Scott, The system will handle the load of 30 call center agents and go up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations of every and all agents/calls. So transcoding and/or I/O bottlenecks are an issue. That's why might seem overkill.
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
If you are going to compile items on an x86_64 box using the CentOS x86_64 arch, there are gotchas introduced by multiple libraries.
What you want to make sure you have is a pure x86_64 build environment to build all x86_64 files.
You may need these 2 files that are i[3,4,5,6]86 (and only these x86 files ... any others can produce badly built binaries).
glibc.i686 glibc-devel.i386
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
As far as all the built in server services, everything on x86_64 from a server perspective works fine (sendmail, apache, gcc, rpm-build, etc.) ... it is the mixing of shared libraries that will cause you problems if you want to build.
On 5/13/06, C.. Scott Heisler Scott.Heisler@huntleighusa.com wrote:
I'm not sure how many users you plan on serving with that Asterisk
box... that does seem like a bit of overkill though. I've read where a couple of hundred users are served quite well with a 1ghz CPU and a gig of RAM (single CPU).
CentOS has a 64bit edition for the AMD CPU. Dual-Core does not
require anything special from the OS, no more that Hyperthreading did. The OS just sees 2 CPUs per DIE. So, the OS will see 4 CPUs. The only issue you will need to deal with is the 64-bit compatibilities. I've played with the 64-bit versions and you may run into some compatibility issues for software not specifically compiled for 64-bit and have to re-compile rather than use the binaries or straight RPMs.
Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org on behalf of Erick Perez Sent: Sat, 5/13/2006 12:21am To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] Centos and Dual Core Opteron in a Tyan Mobo
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 08:56 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
Scott, The system will handle .... up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
If you are going to compile items on an x86_64 box using the CentOS x86_64 arch, there are gotchas introduced by multiple libraries. What you want to make sure you have is a pure x86_64 build environment to build all x86_64 files.
You may need these 2 files that are i[3,4,5,6]86 (and only these x86 files ... any others can produce badly built binaries). glibc.i686 glibc-devel.i386
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
Does using mock get around this restriction?
-David
On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 10:05 -0400, Lists wrote:
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 08:56 -0500, Erick Perez wrote:
Scott, The system will handle .... up all they way to 200 agents talking simultaneously. It must also record the phone conversations
we will definitely recompile asterisk in that box. we will not run the bianries. However when you say compatibilities, you mean development tools? the compiler? sendmail? apache?
If you are going to compile items on an x86_64 box using the CentOS x86_64 arch, there are gotchas introduced by multiple libraries. What you want to make sure you have is a pure x86_64 build environment to build all x86_64 files.
You may need these 2 files that are i[3,4,5,6]86 (and only these x86 files ... any others can produce badly built binaries). glibc.i686 glibc-devel.i386
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
Does using mock get around this restriction?
-David
I don't use mock ... BUT, if it does it in a chroot, yes. If not, no.
Lists wrote:
What this means is, you can't run i386 items (like Open Office) on your x86_64 machine that you want to use for building packages.
Does using mock get around this restriction?
mock will use its own versions of yum config's to build the chroots and rpms - so you can configure it to ignore all non x86_64 and non noarch packages, which works fine.
You can then build either i386 or x86_64 rpm's using mock. BUT, some packages that look at machine type and kernel arch running etc will fail for i386 builds on a x86_64 system, either in mock or any other form of chroot under x86_64.
- KB
On Friday 12 May 2006 22:10, Erick Perez wrote:
Hi folks, an Asterisk (www.asterisk.org) box will be built with the following specs and I wanted to know if CENTOS has a built process/config/parameter/special distro to target the AMD Opteron Dual Core plataform:
2 amd opteron 265 dual core 1.8 Ghz 2mb l2 cache 2x1024 ocz c2-6400 dual channel gold GX XTC 2 Seagate 16mb cache 300 GB barracuda 7200 drives another 2 Seagate 500 GB 16mb cache baracuda ata 7200 drives lite on dual layer lightscribe 16x dvd+rw/rw x48 drive 4 port Sata Raid controller raid - 10 2 gigabit E broadcom 10/100/100 GBE lan controller Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895) motherboard or Tyan motherboards with ServerWorks BCM5785 Chipset (or similar from Tyan only)
I have very similarly configured servers running CentOS, with dual-proc 1-core Opteron CPUs. They ROCK. I use 10k SCSI with software RAID 1, w/Tyan MB. Fast, stable, clean. Nothing to argue with!
Hope this helps...
-Ben
All your comments will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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