On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 at 08:00 -0000, centos-announce-request@centos.org wrote:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-1609.html
For a while now the "upstream details" pointed to in messages from centos-announce have been saying:
Attention: RHN Hosted will reach the end of its service life on July 31, 2017. Customers will be required to migrate existing systems to Red Hat Subscription Management prior to this date.
Is there any plan to shift the CentOS announcements to refer to an alternative freely available service?
Thanks, Stuart Barkley
On Mon, July 3, 2017 12:15 pm, Stuart Barkley wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 at 08:00 -0000, centos-announce-request@centos.org wrote:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-1609.html
For a while now the "upstream details" pointed to in messages from centos-announce have been saying:
Attention: RHN Hosted will reach the end of its service life on July 31, 2017. Customers will be required to migrate existing systems to Red Hat Subscription Management prior to this date.
This message, as far as I understand, resembles to how RedHat subscribers (paid clients) manage/update their RedHat systems (the last requires going trough pilot server for binary packages). CentOS does not use any access restrictions to CentOS packages and other goodies, so this message does not apply to CentOS.
On a side note: I was always admiring RedHat: being commercial company, they live off OpenSource software and always meticulously obey relevant licenses (GPL license almost for overwhelming part of software). Namely, they always provide unrestricted access to source packages (as they tweak original software or settings). CentOS project rebuilds these (changing branding and artwork), and provides "binary compatible" with RedHat Enterprise freely available system. Thanks both to RedHat, and to CentOS teams for the great job you guys are doing!
Valeri
Is there any plan to shift the CentOS announcements to refer to an alternative freely available service?
Thanks, Stuart Barkley -- I've never been lost; I was once bewildered for three days, but never lost! -- Daniel Boone _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Stuart Barkley stuartb@4gh.net wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 at 08:00 -0000, centos-announce-request@centos.org wrote:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-1609.html
The following page refers to the same RHBA:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017:1609
which will not go away for some time ...
Akemi
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 18:45 -0000, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Stuart Barkley stuartb@4gh.net wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 at 08:00 -0000, centos-announce-request@centos.org wrote:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-1609.html
I apparently wasn't clear about the issue. The problem is the CentOS announcements for all of the updates refer to web pages that claim they will no longer exist after July 31, 2017. There are two possible problems:
- Old email (in various archives) may refer to non-existent content. This is a Redhat issue that CentOS can't directly do anything about. Redhat may (hopefully) decide they need to leave the old content available at the old URLs.
- According to the Redhat announcement, future CentOS announcement emails will need to refer to different URLs at a new location (hopefully publicly available). Based upon the information below this looks like it can be addressed by the CentOS team.
I do read the various advisories to make decisions about the importance of various fixes. I hope that this public functionality is not lost with the Redhat changes.
The following page refers to the same RHBA:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017:1609
which will not go away for some time ...
This appears to be publicly available, so I hope the CentOS advisories will start referring to URLs similar to this one.
Thanks, Stuart
On 07/05/2017 10:25 AM, Stuart Barkley wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 18:45 -0000, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Stuart Barkley stuartb@4gh.net wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 at 08:00 -0000, centos-announce-request@centos.org wrote:
Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017-1609.html
I apparently wasn't clear about the issue. The problem is the CentOS announcements for all of the updates refer to web pages that claim they will no longer exist after July 31, 2017. There are two possible problems:
- Old email (in various archives) may refer to non-existent content.
This is a Redhat issue that CentOS can't directly do anything about. Redhat may (hopefully) decide they need to leave the old content available at the old URLs.
- According to the Redhat announcement, future CentOS announcement
emails will need to refer to different URLs at a new location (hopefully publicly available). Based upon the information below this looks like it can be addressed by the CentOS team.
I do read the various advisories to make decisions about the importance of various fixes. I hope that this public functionality is not lost with the Redhat changes.
The following page refers to the same RHBA:
https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2017:1609
which will not go away for some time ...
This appears to be publicly available, so I hope the CentOS advisories will start referring to URLs similar to this one.
Thanks, Stuart
I can make the new announcements use that newer path starting today.
I might also, if the old one stops working, be able to edit the announce list archives to point to the newer path. That might be a little trickier but it should be possible.