Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
Best, John Hinton
Oh. Never mind my previous post...
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Hinton Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:19 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and bittorrent
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
Best, John Hinton _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
John Hinton wrote:
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
When there's an official announcement and a torrent link shows up on the centos website then I'll add my machine to the feed (it's a v-colo machine at an ISP; I have 100Gb/month xfer so I should be able to help out a bit), but I don't want to waste my bandwidth on unannounced potentially broken unfinalised images. Mostly likely what you are downloading now is the final version, but since it hasn't been announced there _could_ be a last minute change.
I strongly suggest people wait for an official announcement and then use that torrent. That's what I'm gonna do!
But at least I'll have it working....
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Harris Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:37 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and bittorrent
John Hinton wrote:
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
When there's an official announcement and a torrent link shows up on the centos website then I'll add my machine to the feed (it's a v-colo machine at an ISP; I have 100Gb/month xfer so I should be able to help out a bit), but I don't want to waste my bandwidth on unannounced potentially broken unfinalised images. Mostly likely what you are downloading now is the final version, but since it hasn't been announced there _could_ be a last minute change.
I strongly suggest people wait for an official announcement and then use that torrent. That's what I'm gonna do!
Stephen Harris spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:37 AM:
John Hinton wrote:
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
When there's an official announcement and a torrent link shows up on the centos website then I'll add my machine to the feed (it's a v-colo machine at an ISP; I have 100Gb/month xfer so I should be able to help out a bit), but I don't want to waste my bandwidth on unannounced potentially broken unfinalised images. Mostly likely what you are downloading now is the final version, but since it hasn't been announced there _could_ be a last minute change.
I strongly suggest people wait for an official announcement and then use that torrent. That's what I'm gonna do!
I'm guessing that the announcement is being held back until all the mirrors are up to speed. That could take a day or so.
On 4/12/07, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
Stephen Harris spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:37 AM:
John Hinton wrote:
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
When there's an official announcement and a torrent link shows up on the centos website then I'll add my machine to the feed (it's a v-colo machine at an ISP; I have 100Gb/month xfer so I should be able to help out a bit), but I don't want to waste my bandwidth on unannounced potentially broken unfinalised images. Mostly likely what you are downloading now is the final version, but since it hasn't been announced there _could_ be a last minute change.
I strongly suggest people wait for an official announcement and then use that torrent. That's what I'm gonna do!
I'm guessing that the announcement is being held back until all the mirrors are up to speed. That could take a day or so.
The CentOS has an announcement for 5.0 listed.
Scott
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:14PM -0500, Scott Moseman wrote:
Stephen Harris spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:37 AM:
When there's an official announcement and a torrent link shows up on the centos website then I'll add my machine to the feed (it's a v-colo machine at an ISP; I have 100Gb/month xfer so I should be able to help
The CentOS has an announcement for 5.0 listed.
I just saw it come through on the announce list so I'm currently starting the torrent. I appear to be uploading 3 times faster than I'm downloading (uploading at 1700KB, downloading at 500KB).
Hopefully my ISP won't start moaning at me!
On 4/12/07, Stephen Harris lists@spuddy.org wrote:
I just saw it come through on the announce list so I'm currently starting the torrent. I appear to be uploading 3 times faster than I'm downloading (uploading at 1700KB, downloading at 500KB).
Hopefully my ISP won't start moaning at me!
Nah, they'll just bill you for it....
:-)
mhr
Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
On 4/12/07, *Stephen Harris* <lists@spuddy.org mailto:lists@spuddy.org> wrote:
I just saw it come through on the announce list so I'm currently starting the torrent. I appear to be uploading 3 times faster than I'm downloading (uploading at 1700KB, downloading at 500KB). Hopefully my ISP won't start moaning at me!Nah, they'll just bill you for it....
I started to feel guilty since we have somewhat of a sweetheart deal for transit so I've throttled back to about 100mbits/sec. And it's pegged. The leeches are out in full force! :)
Even when it was at 500mbits/sec the load on the system was surprisingly low...between 0.1 and 0.25. That old fashioned washed up Centos 4.4 seems to still be holding up. :)
Cheers,
John Hinton wrote:
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
Cheers,
Just reading that myself... http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-command-line-bittorrent-client.html
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of chrism@imntv.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:26 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and bittorrent
John Hinton wrote:
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
Cheers,
_______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:25 PM, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
you can get rtorrent from dag:
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rtorrent/
here's the User Guide:
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
if you've already downloaded, just copy the ISOs into your download location before you fire up the torrent; your client should detect that the torrent is already completely downloaded and start seeding it. configure the client to seed forever, and you'll make a lot of people happy.
-steve
-- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
rTorrent is a console-based BitTorrent client. It aims to be a fully-featured and efficient client with the ability to run in the background using screen
If I install screen, I can start it and leave it in the background when I close SSH, right? I've not used it before, but am installing it (screen) now (it's in base) Anyone have some tips... Can't believe I haven't looked for this before.... Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Steve Huff Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:36 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 and bittorrent
On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:25 PM, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
you can get rtorrent from dag:
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rtorrent/
here's the User Guide:
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
if you've already downloaded, just copy the ISOs into your download location before you fire up the torrent; your client should detect that the torrent is already completely downloaded and start seeding it. configure the client to seed forever, and you'll make a lot of people happy.
-steve
-- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
_______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Dennis McLeod spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:57 AM:
rTorrent is a console-based BitTorrent client. It aims to be a fully-featured and efficient client with the ability to run in the background using screen
If I install screen, I can start it and leave it in the background when I close SSH, right? I've not used it before, but am installing it (screen) now (it's in base) Anyone have some tips... Can't believe I haven't looked for this before.... Dennis
I have a couple of scripts I used to use. I can't remember where I found them, but the author is commented in them. They were for bitTornado, but the command lines shouldn't be that different. I haven't used them since the RH9 days, but anybody is welcome to use them.
BT is the script that starts the torrent running, and SCR is an easy interface into the screen command.
Steve Huff spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:35 AM:
On Apr 12, 2007, at 1:25 PM, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
you can get rtorrent from dag:
http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/rtorrent/
here's the User Guide:
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
if you've already downloaded, just copy the ISOs into your download location before you fire up the torrent; your client should detect that the torrent is already completely downloaded and start seeding it. configure the client to seed forever, and you'll make a lot of people happy.
-steve
-- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
If you want a reasonable torrent prog. with a web based interface, look at torrentflux. I run it on a ClarkConnect gateway at home and I love it. It needs php and mysql, which most servers have anyway.
If someone wants to send me a cheat sheet on how to run a command line version of bitorrent, I'll throw one up on a reasonably beefy machine at the datacenter that's got multiple gigE links to the net.
log in as a regular user.
$ wget http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ tar xvzf ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ cd ctorrent-dnh3 $ ./configure && make $ su # make install # exit $ mkdir bt # on a volume with a lotta space for ISOs $ cd bt $ wget http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/centos/5.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.0-x86_64-b... $ ctorrent -D 250 -U 250 CentOS-5.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent ....
replace the 250's with the max Kbyte/sec Download and Upload you'd like to see it use (it WILL saturate your connection if allowed to). ? or h to show runtime help, you can change these on the fly. use a `screen` connection so you can disconnect and leave it running....
On 4/12/07, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
log in as a regular user.
$ wget http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ tar xvzf ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ cd ctorrent-dnh3 $ ./configure && make $ su # make install # exit $ mkdir bt # on a volume with a lotta space for ISOs $ cd bt $ wget http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/centos/5.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.0-x86_64-b... $ ctorrent -D 250 -U 250 CentOS-5.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent ....
I suppose may people use a router at home. So, some note about opening ports sould be useful. Anyone?
Akemi
Akemi at gmail wrote:
On 4/12/07, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
$ ctorrent -D 250 -U 250 CentOS-5.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent ....
I suppose may people use a router at home. So, some note about opening ports sould be useful. Anyone?
yes, open one or more ports. ctorrent requires a port for each concurrent torrent instance, while other torrent apps like Azureus can share one port for multiple torrents. Forward this port through your firewall/router to the torrent client. Configure said client to use said port. ctorrent takes a -p option to specify the port.
John R Pierce wrote:
log in as a regular user.
$ wget http://www.rahul.net/dholmes/ctorrent/ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ tar xvzf ctorrent-1.3.4-dnh3.tar.gz $ cd ctorrent-dnh3 $ ./configure && make $ su # make install # exit $ mkdir bt # on a volume with a lotta space for ISOs $ cd bt $ wget http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/centos/5.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.0-x86_64-b...
$ ctorrent -D 250 -U 250 CentOS-5.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent ....
Done. I've set it up for 100 mbits up/down and it is well on its way to using it all. :)
Thanks for the crib sheet.
Cheers,
John R Pierce wrote:
$ ctorrent -D 250 -U 250 CentOS-5.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent ....
Done. I've set it up for 100 mbits up/down and it is well on its way to using it all. :)
note, in ctorrent, the -D and -U options are in kBYTES not BITS :)
Heh, that's useful to know.
Time to upgrade to that M40 I've been drooling over. :)
Cheers,
Wow, I woke up this morning to find my server hosting about 5500 (and growing) simultaneous bt connections. :)
On 4/12/07, John Hinton webmaster@ew3d.com wrote:
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
I will try seeding once I get home. bittorrent is disabled at work. Our IT department has no intention of allowing it.
Akemi
John Hinton wrote:
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
Interesting... the torrent is now showing just under 8000 connections! The word is getting out. Likely, CentOS is more widespread in use than most of us realize. I can only imagine what the mirrors are experiencing.
And, the torrents do take loads off those mirrors, so CentOS is likely to not get as much grief about huge downloads if we can do what we can to reduce that load. Sort of like protecting our own systems.. being polite.. that sort of thing.
Hmmm.. now make that 9000 torrents.
JHinton
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
Best, John Hinton _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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CentOS5 Final is released? I missed the announce message, and BTW, where are the .torrent files? http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.0/isos/i386/
Oliver
Ooops CentOS5 Announce: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2007-April/013660.html
Oliver Schulze L. wrote:
CentOS5 Final is released? I missed the announce message, and BTW, where are the .torrent files? http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.0/isos/i386/
Oliver
John Hinton spake the following on 4/12/2007 10:19 AM:
Folks. This is likely to be the hardest hit CentOS has ever taken with regards to bandwidth needs.
I was really hesitant to use bittorrent for this type of thing for a long time. However, it really is nice to give back at least what you take. At the moment, I'm seeing almost 3000 connections to the torrent. That times 3.5 gigs is a pretty huge chunk of data... and it has just begun.
What I'm getting at here, is CentOS gives a LOT! If you have never considered doing your downloads via a torrent, please do consider this and try to give back at least the bandwidth you use. I'm sure the CentOS team will appreciate this more than you will ever know.
Me? I'm downloading via a winders box and I use bit tornado which is extremely flexible in setting upload and download allowances as well as the number of connections. And it's free. I'm sure others use many of the other aps available.. just please consider using the torrent.
Best, John Hinton
I have been seeding the 4.4 i386 dvd for 3 or 4 months, and will probably seed 5 for at least that long. I was seeding the 4.4 x86_64 dvd for a while, but didn't seem to have any peers, so I stopped it.
You can give back a small bit of bandwidth and not notice it, but if those 3000 people each gave back a couple of K's, that is a lot of bang and keeps the costs down for the CentOS team.
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