Hello List,
I need storage for my home network - lots of storage. It's going to hold pictures, home movies, music, other bits of data, etc.
I'm looking to start at about 500 GB, but I'd need to eventually grow that to 1 TB, or more. I also want something that is quiet, has hot swappable drives (not necessary, but a plus), is fairly easy to manage, and can be directly attached to the network. Obviously, it has to work with Linux distros, and support NFS.
I've done some research, and so far the ReadyNAS NV+ looks to be the best. Is there anything else similar to the ReaddyNAS NV+?
I currently have an Arena Aiby v2 for my small business/home office, but it's LOUD, cannot be directly attached to the network, big, and uses PATA drives. It's also leased, so instead of buying it out at the end and moving it to personal use, I just want to let it go when the lease is up.
All recommendations welcome.
Regards,
Ranbir
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 18:39 +0800, Feizhou wrote:
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
Hello List,
I need storage for my home network - lots of storage. It's going to hold pictures, home movies, music, other bits of data, etc.
You seem to be looking at self hosted solutions. Does it have to be self hosted?
Yes, I'd rather store everything locally. I don't want to put private data on some hosted platform, nor pay a service fee for it.
Still - what did you have in mind?
Regards,
Ranbir
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 18:39 +0800, Feizhou wrote:
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
Hello List,
I need storage for my home network - lots of storage. It's going to hold pictures, home movies, music, other bits of data, etc.
You seem to be looking at self hosted solutions. Does it have to be self hosted?
Yes, I'd rather store everything locally. I don't want to put private data on some hosted platform, nor pay a service fee for it.
Oh sorry, I meant the software for providing access to the storage being self-hosted. I missed that part about it being able to be directly connected to the network. Nevermind.
Still - what did you have in mind?
eSATA connected directly to your box. Anyways, you want something that supports both direct access from Linux and the network? At the same time?
Hi,
Take a look on the Linksys NSLU2 runs on Linux and had 2 USB ports for external USB drives. But, as it runs linux it can be used to attach virtually anything
Antonio.
----- "Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu" m3freak@thesandhufamily.ca wrote:
Hello List,
I need storage for my home network - lots of storage. It's going to hold pictures, home movies, music, other bits of data, etc.
I'm looking to start at about 500 GB, but I'd need to eventually grow that to 1 TB, or more. I also want something that is quiet, has hot swappable drives (not necessary, but a plus), is fairly easy to manage, and can be directly attached to the network. Obviously, it has to work with Linux distros, and support NFS.
I've done some research, and so far the ReadyNAS NV+ looks to be the best. Is there anything else similar to the ReaddyNAS NV+?
I currently have an Arena Aiby v2 for my small business/home office, but it's LOUD, cannot be directly attached to the network, big, and uses PATA drives. It's also leased, so instead of buying it out at the end and moving it to personal use, I just want to let it go when the lease is up.
All recommendations welcome.
Regards,
Ranbir
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Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
Hello List,
I need storage for my home network - lots of storage. It's going to hold pictures, home movies, music, other bits of data, etc.
I'm looking to start at about 500 GB, but I'd need to eventually grow that to 1 TB, or more. I also want something that is quiet, has hot swappable drives (not necessary, but a plus), is fairly easy to manage, and can be directly attached to the network. Obviously, it has to work with Linux distros, and support NFS.
I've done some research, and so far the ReadyNAS NV+ looks to be the best. Is there anything else similar to the ReaddyNAS NV+?
I currently have an Arena Aiby v2 for my small business/home office, but it's LOUD, cannot be directly attached to the network, big, and uses PATA drives. It's also leased, so instead of buying it out at the end and moving it to personal use, I just want to let it go when the lease is up.
All recommendations welcome.
Regards,
Ranbir
Hi Ranbir,
Have a look at CORAID - I don't have the address - but Google should find it.
ChrisG
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:48 +0200, Chris Geldenhuis wrote:
Have a look at CORAID - I don't have the address - but Google should find it.
Holy shit: none of their products are consumer grade. I can't put that stuff in my house! I need external raid storage that will work in a home!
Thanks for replying, though.
Regards,
Ranbir
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:48 +0200, Chris Geldenhuis wrote:
Have a look at CORAID - I don't have the address - but Google should find it.
Holy shit: none of their products are consumer grade. I can't put that stuff in my house! I need external raid storage that will work in a home!
There's always openfiler, but for some reason, small quiet cases tend to be expensive. Does it have to be a standalone box on the network or can you hang an exteral drive case off an always-running box you already have?
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:39 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
There's always openfiler, but for some reason, small quiet cases tend to be expensive. Does it have to be a standalone box on the network or can you hang an exteral drive case off an always-running box you already have?
Attaching it to a on always on server works too. That's what I'm doing right now for the Aiby II. But, the Aiby is just loud and blows out lots of hot air (I guess that can't be helped). That's why I don't want to buy it out at the end of the lease.
Do you have a quiet, external drive case in mind?
Regards,
Ranbir
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
There's always openfiler, but for some reason, small quiet cases tend to be expensive. Does it have to be a standalone box on the network or can you hang an exteral drive case off an always-running box you already have?
Attaching it to a on always on server works too. That's what I'm doing right now for the Aiby II. But, the Aiby is just loud and blows out lots of hot air (I guess that can't be helped). That's why I don't want to buy it out at the end of the lease.
Do you have a quiet, external drive case in mind?
I have some WD combo firewire/USB drives but I don't run them all the time and I'm not thrilled by the power connectors. I don't have any experience with the larger raid cases.
Do you have a quiet, external drive case in mind?
I would suggest eSATA cases. An si3124 controller with 4 eSATA ports is available for around 100USD.
I don't know when port multiplier support will be available but when it is, you can attached a 5 bay SATA (non-raid) disk enclosure to a single eSATA port. That should give plenty of room for growth with software raid (if you want software raid). In the mean time, you could look at getting 750GB drives on single drive eSATA cases. eSATA is much better than USB 2.0 for disks. Or go firewire. USB2.0 is a joke for high bandwidth.
On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:04:16 +0800 Feizhou wrote: F> > Do you have a quiet, external drive case in mind? F> F> I would suggest eSATA cases. An si3124 controller with 4 eSATA ports is F> available for around 100USD. F> F> eSATA is much better than USB 2.0 for disks. Or go firewire.
I would stick with eSATA. Firewire bandwidth is ok, but you can use smartmon to monitor firewire for disk failures. (Yes, I found this out the hard way.) I still use firewire for occasional portable storage, but I won't ever use it again for storage that is connected/used 24x7.
Just sharing my 5 cents,
How stringent is your requirement that this be external storage?
My home server (currently at 1.25TB) is using a Super Micro SATA hot-swap drive cage. Five drives take up three bays in a mini-server tower (case has a total of 9 bays). I have another cage installed, but no controller for it as of yet. I have 4 of the 5 drives connected to onboard SATA and one connected to a pci sata controller. The boot drive is PATA, and the cdrom is external usb2. Hot-swap seems to work ... although I haven't tried to remove a drive hot, I have added two. With a custom kernel and recompiling some tools, you can add hot-growable soft-RAID5 support to Centos, or if you have the funding, a hardware raid controller would be awesome.
The cages' stock fan isn't very quiet but that's an easy remedy, it's just a standard 92mm fan.
Gordon
Gordon McLellan wrote:
Just sharing my 5 cents,
How stringent is your requirement that this be external storage?
i don't know...the OP did not say much about space in his case.
My home server (currently at 1.25TB) is using a Super Micro SATA hot-swap drive cage. Five drives take up three bays in a mini-server tower (case has a total of 9 bays). I have another cage installed, but no controller for it as of yet. I have 4 of the 5 drives connected to onboard SATA and one connected to a pci sata controller. The boot drive is PATA, and the cdrom is external usb2. Hot-swap seems to work ... although I haven't tried to remove a drive hot, I have added two. With a custom kernel and recompiling some tools, you can add hot-growable soft-RAID5 support to Centos, or if you have the funding, a hardware raid controller would be awesome.
hardware raid that comes with bbu cache for that matter.
if you can hot add two sata drives, you should be able to hot remove sata drives too. at least on opensolaris that was very easy to do. just unplug or poweroff. i suspect centos 5 to be very simple on this point. not sure about centos 4.
Feizhou wrote:
How stringent is your requirement that this be external storage?
i don't know...the OP did not say much about space in his case.
My home server (currently at 1.25TB) is using a Super Micro SATA hot-swap drive cage. Five drives take up three bays in a mini-server tower (case has a total of 9 bays). I have another cage installed, but no controller for it as of yet. I have 4 of the 5 drives connected to onboard SATA and one connected to a pci sata controller. The boot drive is PATA, and the cdrom is external usb2. Hot-swap seems to work ... although I haven't tried to remove a drive hot, I have added two. With a custom kernel and recompiling some tools, you can add hot-growable soft-RAID5 support to Centos, or if you have the funding, a hardware raid controller would be awesome.
hardware raid that comes with bbu cache for that matter.
if you can hot add two sata drives, you should be able to hot remove sata drives too. at least on opensolaris that was very easy to do. just unplug or poweroff. i suspect centos 5 to be very simple on this point. not sure about centos 4.
The recent 4.5 release should have fixed this if it wasn't handled in earlier centos 4 versions.
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:39 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
There's always openfiler, but for some reason, small quiet cases tend to be expensive. Does it have to be a standalone box on the network or can you hang an exteral drive case off an always-running box you already have?
Attaching it to a on always on server works too. That's what I'm doing right now for the Aiby II. But, the Aiby is just loud and blows out lots of hot air (I guess that can't be helped). That's why I don't want to buy it out at the end of the lease.
Do you have a quiet, external drive case in mind?
Regards,
Ranbir
I love our PromiseRAID ISCSI based unit, quiet, affordable, effective. Works beautifully with centos 64-bit server it hangs off of.
-krb