Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up for him as his default.
My aim is: - Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user - Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop - Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later - Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
KDE :)
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, david wrote:
Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up for him as his default.
My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
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My vote is still for KDE
It's got a similar feel to Windows before it went pear shaped at Win8. It's fairly easy to use. He should be able to do most stuff as a user.
On Friday 30 September 2016 16:33:04 Scot P. Floess wrote:
KDE :)
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, david wrote:
Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up for him as his default.
My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
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On Fri, September 30, 2016 10:47 am, Gary Stainburn wrote:
My vote is still for KDE
I would agree, unhappy Windows 10 user will be pleased by KDE, or latest GNOME that is installed by default on CentOS 7. I also would add mate, so if user still have mental ability to categorize things, he/she may be happier to stick with menus arranged by category, instead of being forced to stop using brain and use search instead as latest KDE and Gnome make you (someone said they only make happy the "iPad generation" of people ;-)
Just my $0.02
Valeri
It's got a similar feel to Windows before it went pear shaped at Win8. It's fairly easy to use. He should be able to do most stuff as a user.
On Friday 30 September 2016 16:33:04 Scot P. Floess wrote:
KDE :)
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, david wrote:
Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I
control
for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which
of
the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up
for
him as his default.
My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
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-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Valeri Galtsev Sent: den 30 september 2016 18:14 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I
control
for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to
which of
the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up
for
him as his default.
My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.
IMHO whatever DE (eg Gnome2, Mate or KDE) should work except for the thinnest ones (eg xfce), which are are likely to be scary for a former Windows refugee.
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply the Redmond theme!
On Monday 03 October 2016 07:01:49 Sorin Srbu wrote:
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply the Redmond theme!
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into
System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme
but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 11:24 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
On Monday 03 October 2016 07:01:49 Sorin Srbu wrote:
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply the Redmond theme!
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
Come to think of it, I last used it on CentOS 5 (IIRC) when I transferred my mother to linux from Windows some time ago.
It might not be available as a default theme anymore. 8-/
On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:13:56 Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 11:24 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
On Monday 03 October 2016 07:01:49 Sorin Srbu wrote:
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply the Redmond theme!
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
Come to think of it, I last used it on CentOS 5 (IIRC) when I transferred my mother to linux from Windows some time ago.
It might not be available as a default theme anymore. 8-/
That's a shame, because I was hoping to use it for the same thing
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 12:33 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply
the
Redmond theme!
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
Come to think of it, I last used it on CentOS 5 (IIRC) when I
transferred
my mother to linux from Windows some time ago.
It might not be available as a default theme anymore. 8-/
That's a shame, because I was hoping to use it for the same thing
Would maybe this help?
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avail able/
On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:40:32 Sorin Srbu wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 12:33 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
The most important thing to not forget though, is to add and apply
the
Redmond theme!
I didn't know there was such a thing. I've gone into System Settings -> Workspace Theme -> Desktop Theme but I can't find it anywhere. What am I doing wrong?
Come to think of it, I last used it on CentOS 5 (IIRC) when I
transferred
my mother to linux from Windows some time ago.
It might not be available as a default theme anymore. 8-/
That's a shame, because I was hoping to use it for the same thing
Would maybe this help?
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avai l able/
I'll have a look, but one of the reasons I'm hoping to get some people onto Linux is because they hate Windows 8 / Windows 10
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 12:49 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
That's a shame, because I was hoping to use it for the same thing
Would maybe this help?
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avail able/
I'll have a look, but one of the reasons I'm hoping to get some people
onto
Linux is because they hate Windows 8 / Windows 10
In that case I don't quite understand why you want a Windows-lookalike in linux.
On Tuesday 04 October 2016 11:59:24 Sorin Srbu wrote:
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/windows-10-theme-for-linux-now-avai l able/
I'll have a look, but one of the reasons I'm hoping to get some people onto Linux is because they hate Windows 8 / Windows 10
In that case I don't quite understand why you want a Windows-lookalike in linux.
I have a lot of friends / users who use Windows 7 and are happy enough. This means I have to support Windows 7.
I get annoyed when I have to use Win8 or Win10 because of the *improvements* that MS have made to the UI.
A large number of my friends / users are in the same boat, and they're used to MS Windows 100% of the time, whereas I only use it when I have to.
I was hoping for a KDE theme that would be as close as possible to Win7 in look and feel.
BTW, I tried the CNet link but it didn't work. Thanks tho.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 13:07 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
In that case I don't quite understand why you want a Windows-lookalike
in
linux.
[...] I was hoping for a KDE theme that would be as close as possible to Win7 in look and feel.
Gotcha', thanks.
BTW, I tried the CNet link but it didn't work. Thanks tho.
Probably got truncated. Try this instead; http://tinyurl.com/zpozp49.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 13:25 To: 'CentOS mailing list' centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]
On
Behalf Of Gary Stainburn Sent: den 4 oktober 2016 13:07 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
In that case I don't quite understand why you want a Windows-lookalike
in
linux.
[...] I was hoping for a KDE theme that would be as close as possible to Win7
in
look and feel.
Gotcha', thanks.
BTW, I tried the CNet link but it didn't work. Thanks tho.
Probably got truncated. Try this instead; http://tinyurl.com/zpozp49.
Well, well. 8-)
https://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Win2-7(Pixmap)?content=118227
Please be aware of truncated URLs!
For a newbie KDE is pretty Windows-like. However, once you're used to it, the earlier comments about Gnome3 versus Mate also apply to KDE versus Trinity. Both of the major Desktops seem to be too "oh let's see what we can do with this radically new idea" oriented. Might want to consider Trinity.
----- Original Message ----- From: "david" david@daku.org To: centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:19:28 AM Subject: [CentOS] Desktop for newbies
Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up for him as his default.
My aim is: - Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user - Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop - Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later - Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
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On 09/30/2016 10:19 AM, david wrote:
Folks
I'm about to set up a non-root user on a Centos=7 server that I control for a friend. It is in his home, so access is local. He's a refugee from the latest Windows 10 Upgrade. I'd like a suggestion as to which of the several possible graphical desktops to suggest to him and set up for him as his default.
My aim is:
- Allow him to try out Linux as an end-user
- Let him start to feel comfortable with the desktop
- Learn the new idioms for familiar programs and functions
And later
- Give him his own system with root privileges.
Suggestions?
David
Well, I would set up standard (not classic) GNOME3 and a normal user and give him root privs via sudo. And tell him the root password as well.
If you turn on the extensions for Applications (top menu) and show windows at the bottom, GNOME 3 is close enough from a desktop standpoint that Windows users can figure everything out as a user.
If you tell him the root password and also setup sudo access .. he can control everything like users, etc. via the GUI (will ask for the root password) .. and as he becomes more comfortable with the CLI, he can use sudo to start things as root from there.
I initially used the Classic skin for gnome3 (and even Mate and/or Cinnamon for a gnome2 desktop) .. but for me, eventually, the 'Windows Button' with app search by default in the standard GNOME3 desktop was the easiest platform for me to use.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
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