Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
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I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks >professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo >which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue >even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
I was hoping for Mobile support which it looks like the OS version of Zimbra doesn't have. Regardless, I should have been more clear in that I am not concerned about GPL compliancy but meant free when I said open source.
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! jlc
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:46 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Re: MS Exchange Replacement
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable
and very easy to setup. Looks >professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo >which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue >even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
I was hoping for Mobile support which it looks like the OS version of Zimbra doesn't have. Regardless, I should have been more clear in that I am not concerned about GPL compliancy but meant free when I said open source.
That is the very same reason, we needed our BES (blackberry) server to work.
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Jason Pyeron wrote:
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable
and very easy to setup. Looks >professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo >which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue >even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
I was hoping for Mobile support which it looks like the OS version of Zimbra doesn't have. Regardless, I should have been more clear in that I am not concerned about GPL compliancy but meant free when I said open source.
That is the very same reason, we needed our BES (blackberry) server to work.
Why do you need anything special to support mobile users these days? Most internet-enabled phones will do IMAP and SMTP over ssl just like everybody else. If the server and phone both support the IMAP IDLE command, you get real-time push email, otherwise you have to poll for it.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:43 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: MS Exchange Replacement
Jason Pyeron wrote:
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML
capable
and very easy to setup. Looks >professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo >which
is
planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue >even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
I was hoping for Mobile support which it looks like the OS version of Zimbra doesn't have. Regardless, I should have been more clear in that
I
am not concerned about GPL compliancy but meant free when I said open source.
That is the very same reason, we needed our BES (blackberry) server to
work.
Why do you need anything special to support mobile users these days? Most internet-enabled phones will do IMAP and SMTP over ssl just like everybody else. If the server and phone both support the IMAP IDLE command, you get real-time push email, otherwise you have to poll for it.
Calendar, contacts, vpn, ...
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Jason Pyeron wrote:
Why do you need anything special to support mobile users these days? Most internet-enabled phones will do IMAP and SMTP over ssl just like everybody else. If the server and phone both support the IMAP IDLE command, you get real-time push email, otherwise you have to poll for it.
Calendar, contacts, vpn, ...
What does exchange have to do with vpn?
The same that i was wondering, VPN Exchange??? Instead of Zimbra there is another email server that runs good and provide nice features? Im new to linux but I am getting close day to day.
Thanks for all!
George from Uruguay.
-----Mensaje original----- De: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] En nombre de Les Mikesell Enviado el: Lunes, 07 de Abril de 2008 01:25 p.m. Para: CentOS mailing list Asunto: Re: [CentOS] Re: MS Exchange Replacement
Jason Pyeron wrote:
Why do you need anything special to support mobile users these days? Most internet-enabled phones will do IMAP and SMTP over ssl just like everybody else. If the server and phone both support the IMAP IDLE command, you get real-time push email, otherwise you have to poll for it.
Calendar, contacts, vpn, ...
What does exchange have to do with vpn?
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:25 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: MS Exchange Replacement
Jason Pyeron wrote:
Why do you need anything special to support mobile users these days? Most internet-enabled phones will do IMAP and SMTP over ssl just like everybody else. If the server and phone both support the IMAP IDLE command, you get real-time push email, otherwise you have to poll for
it.
Calendar, contacts, vpn, ...
What does exchange have to do with vpn?
BES server does.
BES server requires exchange >=5.5
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Jun Salen wrote:
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
it is NOT GPL, it is YPL http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html and can not be redistributed without attribution ... so if the M$ buy out happens there is no guarantee that another version could be made under the terms of the YPL.
There has been MUCH dismay about this in the Zimbra forums ... and we will have to see what happens if the buyout happens.
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbra-success-stories/14964-ms-offering-buy-ya...
So, I like zimbra as an exchange replacement, but I would not recommend it for NEW installs.
This is another example of how the license "DOES MATTER".
But then again, I am a GPL "kool-aid" drinker, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 08:49 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Jun Salen wrote:
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
it is NOT GPL, it is YPL http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html and can not be redistributed without attribution ... so if the M$ buy out happens there is no guarantee that another version could be made under the terms of the YPL.
There has been MUCH dismay about this in the Zimbra forums ... and we will have to see what happens if the buyout happens.
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbra-success-stories/14964-ms-offering-buy-ya...
So, I like zimbra as an exchange replacement, but I would not recommend it for NEW installs.
This is another example of how the license "DOES MATTER".
But then again, I am a GPL "kool-aid" drinker, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
---- I think the issue of Zimbra will completely prove the point for GPL since if (or perhaps when is more operative) Microsoft buys Zimbra, they will have little incentive to sell it off or continue to develop which turns all existing Zimbra installations into orphans.
Craig
Craig White wrote:
On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 08:49 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Jun Salen wrote:
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
it is NOT GPL, it is YPL http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html and can not be redistributed without attribution ... so if the M$ buy out happens there is no guarantee that another version could be made under the terms of the YPL.
There has been MUCH dismay about this in the Zimbra forums ... and we will have to see what happens if the buyout happens.
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbra-success-stories/14964-ms-offering-buy-ya...
So, I like zimbra as an exchange replacement, but I would not recommend it for NEW installs.
This is another example of how the license "DOES MATTER".
But then again, I am a GPL "kool-aid" drinker, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
I think the issue of Zimbra will completely prove the point for GPL since if (or perhaps when is more operative) Microsoft buys Zimbra, they will have little incentive to sell it off or continue to develop which turns all existing Zimbra installations into orphans.
Craig
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maybe.... or maybe they will start suing everyone with a Zimbra server, since it's now their property and doesn't comply with their licenses ?
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Jun Salen wrote:
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it was bought by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS version was GPL, then I assume that the project will continue even after acquired by M$. Maybe.
it is NOT GPL, it is YPL http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html and can not be redistributed without attribution ... so if the M$ buy out happens there is no guarantee that another version could be made under the terms of the YPL.
There has been MUCH dismay about this in the Zimbra forums ... and we will have to see what happens if the buyout happens.
As well there should be. Microsoft has a long history of buying software companies that have *nix solutions that compete with their own products, then killing the *nix versions (RealWorld and other accounting software comes to mind).
At one time HP had a promising Exchange replacement, which they dropped. There are those who think that M$ brought pressure on HP to drop this, and HP probably sells far more systems running Windows than they do running *nix systems.
Bill
I'm moving from qmail to the free version of Google Apps for my personal domain. I'm moving, and losing my FTOH solution (and they didn't care what I did...) It offers 100 free email accounts, 6.5g of storage per email account, calendars, contacts, google talk, docs and sites. Gmail mobile access for Blackberry. Google sync for Calendar on Blackberry. I really just wanted an imap mail server solution, but thought I would try it out until I get moved and see what I have at the new location. No hardware, no software. I don't see anything about Outlook using google calendars, but I've only just set it up.... Maybe it'll do what you want....
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Campbell [mailto:centos@celestial.com] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:03 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: MS Exchange Replacement
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Jun Salen wrote:
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
What is the closest open source mail server I can replace exchange with that provides the nearest equivalent in user experience?
Thanks! jlc
I use Zimbra OS Edition with more than 300 users, Ajax and HTML capable and very easy to setup. Looks professional in terms of interface. Good community too. The only problem is that it
was bought
by Yahoo which is planning to buy by M$, but since OS
version was GPL,
then I assume that the project will continue even after
acquired by M$. Maybe.
it is NOT GPL, it is YPL http://www.zimbra.com/license/yahoo_public_license_1.0.html
and can
not be redistributed without attribution ... so if the M$ buy out happens there is no guarantee that another version could be
made under
the terms of the YPL.
There has been MUCH dismay about this in the Zimbra forums
... and we
will have to see what happens if the buyout happens.
As well there should be. Microsoft has a long history of buying software companies that have *nix solutions that compete with their own products, then killing the *nix versions (RealWorld and other accounting software comes to mind).
At one time HP had a promising Exchange replacement, which they dropped. There are those who think that M$ brought pressure on HP to drop this, and HP probably sells far more systems running Windows than they do running *nix systems.
Bill
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The HP product OpenMail lives on as Scalix. It's not the best license but it has a goood community. They were purchased in the fall of 2007 by Xandros which has a "special relationship" with Microsoft. It's a bit of a worry but so far so good.
Scalix can push email to Blackberry's and the Blackberry desktop sync program works well with the Scalix - Outlook combination. Scalix promises better integration "shortly".
While it installs with sendmail, it does allow use of postfix, amavis, spamassasin, and clam. For the most part "plays well with others." Like Zimbra it does tend to take over but not NEARLY to the same extent. For example we have successfully integrated Samba on the same server with good results. YMMV
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