Hi,
I am referring to https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSStream and i am not sure if i understand it correctly, Is it a separate CentOS distribution which is similar to CentOS-8 (1905)?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards,
Kaushal
On 10/5/19 3:00 PM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
Hi,
I am referring to https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSStream and i am not sure if i understand it correctly, Is it a separate CentOS distribution which is similar to CentOS-8 (1905)?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards,
Kaushal
I just wrote this for official CentOS Facebook group:
CentOS Stream is/will be work in progres to get new minor version. With CentOS 8.0, CentOS Stream will be continually changed to reach packages to be put into RHEL 8.1 (and after rebuilt CentOS 8.1). What Red Hat did in-house to prepare new minor version (8.1, 8.2, 8.3, ...) now will be transparent so that developers using CentOS and RHEL as platform for their software can prepare their own software before new RHEL minor version is released. EPEL, ElRepo, various SiG's will prepare needed changes in preparation for new RHEL minor version.
So I do not advise use of CentOS Stream for production, better look at it as a Beta -in-progress.
I am referring to https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSStream and i am not sure if i understand it correctly, Is it a separate CentOS distribution which is similar to CentOS-8 (1905)?
Currently CentOS-Stream is the same as CentOS.
In the future new features and upgrades will appear in Stream as a sort of rolling release and it will form the basis of future RHEL releases (and subsequently CentOS releases). It will also be the place for community input into RHEL/CentOS. Think of it as halfway between the cutting edge Fedora and the stable RHEL releases.
The industry still needs the absolutely rock solid platform that is RHEL/CentOS for mission critical servers and as a basis for commercial software. But there is clearly also a need for more up-to-date things for desktops and so on that doesn't have the cutting edge "danger" of Fedora.
P.
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
In the future new features and upgrades will appear in Stream as a sort of rolling release and it will form the basis of future RHEL releases (and subsequently CentOS releases). It will also be the place for community input into RHEL/CentOS. Think of it as halfway between the cutting edge Fedora and the stable RHEL releases.
Sometimes the easiest explanation is too easy. :)
CentOS Stream won't be getting new releases of software that isn't intended to go into a RHEL minor release (like 8.2). It'll just be getting those changes sooner (and with the possibility of updates, revisions, and even rollbacks before the RHEL minor release). It will be changing daily, so it's less stable in that sense, but the net change over six months will be the same as what can be expected in a RHEL minor update, and I don't think the policies for that are changing.
That's CentOS Stream, at least. But I think there's room for a lot more CentOS/Fedora collaboration, where for example we use bits from CentOS Stream to provide longer lifecycle for some packages, or use bits from the Fedora collection — possibly through Fedora EPEL — to provide faster alternatives for RHEL and the CentOS traditional rebuild.
On 10/5/19 11:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
In the future new features and upgrades will appear in Stream as a sort of rolling release and it will form the basis of future RHEL releases (and subsequently CentOS releases). It will also be the place for community input into RHEL/CentOS. Think of it as halfway between the cutting edge Fedora and the stable RHEL releases.
Sometimes the easiest explanation is too easy. :)
CentOS Stream won't be getting new releases of software that isn't intended to go into a RHEL minor release (like 8.2). It'll just be getting those changes sooner (and with the possibility of updates, revisions, and even rollbacks before the RHEL minor release). It will be changing daily, so it's less stable in that sense, but the net change over six months will be the same as what can be expected in a RHEL minor update, and I don't think the policies for that are changing.
That's CentOS Stream, at least. But I think there's room for a lot more CentOS/Fedora collaboration, where for example we use bits from CentOS Stream to provide longer lifecycle for some packages, or use bits from the Fedora collection — possibly through Fedora EPEL — to provide faster alternatives for RHEL and the CentOS traditional rebuild.
It would have to be something other then CentOS Stream. Maybe CentOS gets some software streams/modules where you can choose Firefox 68 over 60, but it would have to come from EPEL I am guesing, with CentOS only providing infrastructure for this change. But I somehow doubt it will go that way, CentOS is ment as only rebuld of RHEL.
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