Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:

VMWare Player cannot create VMs. It is used to run existing VMs (either open source based VMs available for download from VMWare's Virtual Appliances directory ( http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ ) or created with another version of VMWare).

VMWare server does allow the creation of VMs. If I understand some of the things I'm reading (and my use here at work of server and esx), major differences between server and it's payware cousin VMWare workstation are:

• Server runs as a Windows service/Linux daemon
• Server is client/server based. You use a console application to access

your VM. (something akin to VNC)

• Features Workstation has that Server does not: snapshotting of VMs,

full screen mode, shared folders

Shawn,

You can actually create one snapshot in Server, but you don't get the option of having the snapshot manager like say in Workstation. Other than that, the web client, and the console connection are really cool on the network like you mention. Server actually does indeed support full screen mode. Basically, you're losing the snapshot manager and gaining the console/web client.

Max

Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:

Max,

Thanks for the corrections. I didn't realize server had full screen. I'll have to look into that. And no shared folders is easy enough to get around with WinSCP to your host OS (or setup a samba server).

I have a Linux workstation and a MacBook Pro here in the office. I used server for WinXP "access" until I got the Mac (now using Parallels Desktop over there).

I'm thinking the first beta release didn't have full screen mode, and perhaps that's what you were thinking about. Here at my office we're running several VMware Workstation loads. Actually, I'm running it on CentOS 4.3 for the exact thing (an XP load to run anti-virus controllers), plus a few other virtual machines.

I've been playing with Server for a few weeks now, and I'm really liking the web interface and console to hook up to. You can reboot machines from the web interface, etc. Drop it on a server, and then you can access your machines console across the network, never having to leave your seat...what else can a lazy person ask for. :)

Max

Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:

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I've been playing with Server for a few weeks now, and I'm really liking the web interface and console to hook up to. You can reboot machines from the web interface, etc. Drop it on a server, and then you can access your machines console across the network, never having to leave your seat...what else can a lazy person ask for. :)

I'm looking into automation of VM creation and builds for work here on ESX and VI3. I just took a look at my Server install as well....

Check out vmware-cmd if you need to automate things that you would do in the GUI (like powering on/off etc). (Command reference: http://www.vmware.com/support/esx2/doc/vmware-cmd.html). Also checkout http://www.easyvmx.com/ for a handy web interface for creating VM config files.

Sweet! I'll check those out. Thanks for the references, I've not heard of them before.

Max

Guillermo Garron wrote:

I have found this page http://fcarmona.com.mx/weblog/2006/06/19/qemu-en-fedora-core-5/ it is in spanish but the comands are ok, it is not about VMWare but i think it does the same i have just installed XP with it on my Fedora5 and runs great!! (a lill slow) but as far as i can see it is easier tha VMWare to install.

I'm not familiar with that package. VMware is very very easy to install, though so I'm not sure where you're getting it's hard to install. It's simply an RPM file to install. It runs through a configuration utility, where you answer a few questions (usually the defaults are good), and then you start the console with one command.

Compared to other packages, VMware does a much better job at communicating with your hardware. It's more true virtualization compared to other software just tricking the system. Each virtual machine is isolated from the other, so you should be careful about other packages in regards to issues like this.

Then again, this is why open source is great! There are many things to choose from, therefor you pick what works best for your needs. Best of luck. :)

Max

I'm not familiar with that package. VMware is very very easy to install, though so I'm not sure where you're getting it's hard to install. It's simply an RPM file to install. It runs through a configuration utility, where you answer a few questions (usually the defaults are good), and then you start the console with one command.

Compared to other packages, VMware does a much better job at communicating with your hardware. It's more true virtualization compared to other software just tricking the system. Each virtual machine is isolated from the other, so you should be careful about other packages in regards to issues like this.

You were rigth it is really easy to install, and has no comparation with QEMU it is like being in an old VW and then in a Bugatty!! :) I have only one concern it had to compile a module for my kernel, so when I update my linux Kernel with yum, i will loose my VMWare ? I think yum is not take care of that :) regards, Guillermo.

Guillermo Garron schrieb:

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I'm not familiar with that package. VMware is very very easy to install, though so I'm not sure where you're getting it's hard to install. It's simply an RPM file to install. It runs through a configuration utility, where you answer a few questions (usually the defaults are good), and then you start the console with one command.

Compared to other packages, VMware does a much better job at communicating with your hardware. It's more true virtualization compared to other software just tricking the system. Each virtual machine is isolated from the other, so you should be careful about other packages in regards to issues like this.

You were rigth it is really easy to install, and has no comparation with QEMU it is like being in an old VW and then in a Bugatty!! :) I have only one concern it had to compile a module for my kernel, so when I update my linux Kernel with yum, i will loose my VMWare ? I think yum is not take care of that :) regards, Guillermo. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

You'll lose it only temporarily - another run of vmware-config.pl will fix it.

Regards Thomas

Hi,

Does anyone try USB on XP working on VMWare server over Centos 4.3? i cand make my XP see my USB camera.

thanks regards, Guillermo.

On 7/22/06, Guillermo Garron guillermo.fedora@gmail.com wrote:

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You'll lose it only temporarily - another run of vmware-config.pl will fix it.

thanks Anthony and Thomas!

Guillermo.

Shawn K. O'Shea wrote:

major differences between server and it's payware cousin VMWare workstation are:

Also note that some versions of VmWare do not support mapping of USB attached hardware into guest machines (check their web site for more info). This might be an issue if for example you want to sync PalmOS device with Palm Desktop running inside Windows guest.