maybe some of the 3.4 beta discussion has covered this, i wasn't watching it too closely.
what is going to be the process to convert a system from 3.3 to 3.4? will a simple yum update work? or do we have to do something more intentional to make it happen? how does redhat handle u3->u4 updates? i assume that since u4 has been published that security patches from rh will only apply to u4? or do they also supply security patches for u3 for some period of time?
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 13:29, Joe Pruett wrote:
maybe some of the 3.4 beta discussion has covered this, i wasn't watching it too closely.
what is going to be the process to convert a system from 3.3 to 3.4? will a simple yum update work? or do we have to do something more intentional to make it happen? how does redhat handle u3->u4 updates? i assume that since u4 has been published that security patches from rh will only apply to u4? or do they also supply security patches for u3 for some period of time?
Security fixes have been applied to the 3.3 trees already. A yum update should apply them for you. As for the bug fixes and enhancements, I have added some of those to the 3.3 x86_64 tree, with the rest of them to follow shortly. Thus, eventually, a yum update will essentially move you to 3.4.
I believe the i386 3.3 tree will be similar, unless I've missed something.
I will also be posting a separate 3.4 tree for x86_64, complete with isos. It is being built and will be tested soon.
Lance and others can chime in with more details, as he's further along with 3.4 than I am.
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Will Dinkel wrote:
Security fixes have been applied to the 3.3 trees already. A yum update should apply them for you. As for the bug fixes and enhancements, I have added some of those to the 3.3 x86_64 tree, with the rest of them to follow shortly. Thus, eventually, a yum update will essentially move you to 3.4.
I believe the i386 3.3 tree will be similar, unless I've missed something.
I will also be posting a separate 3.4 tree for x86_64, complete with isos. It is being built and will be tested soon.
Lance and others can chime in with more details, as he's further along with 3.4 than I am.
i am just talking about the i386 right now, but i assume it would apply to both. the updates necessary to get 3.3 to 3.4 will be in the 3.3 patch tree and after they are applied, my systems will look at a 3.4 patch tree? is that the basic model? i am also trying to figure out how to change my patch mirror.
i know that scheduled quarterly updates was a part of the redhat enterprise model. once redhat has rolled from u3 to u4, i am assuming that they no longer provide security patches for u3, right? so therefore centos wouldn't have patches for 3.3 after 3.4 is official?
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Will Dinkel wrote:
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 13:29, Joe Pruett wrote:
maybe some of the 3.4 beta discussion has covered this, i wasn't watching it too closely.
what is going to be the process to convert a system from 3.3 to 3.4? will a simple yum update work?
yes
or do we have to do something more intentional to make it happen? how does redhat handle u3->u4 updates? i assume that since u4 has been published that security patches from rh will only apply to u4? or do they also supply security patches for u3 for some period of time?
Redhat only have one tree of updates for rhel 3.
Security fixes have been applied to the 3.3 trees already. A yum update should apply them for you. As for the bug fixes and enhancements, I have added some of those to the 3.3 x86_64 tree, with the rest of them to follow shortly. Thus, eventually, a yum update will essentially move you to 3.4.
I believe the i386 3.3 tree will be similar, unless I've missed something.
I will also be posting a separate 3.4 tree for x86_64, complete with isos. It is being built and will be tested soon.
well in fact 3.4 will actually go to 3/ and we will be moving the old repos for 3.1 & 3.3 to an old-updates directory that isnt mirrored.
3.1 & 3.3 will become symlinks to 3/ and anyone that updates will get 3.4
centos-release will have version 3/ and epoch 2 to facilitate this transition.
This is to become dag compatible and to make updates easier.
Lance
Lance Davis wrote:
well in fact 3.4 will actually go to 3/ and we will be moving the old repos for 3.1 & 3.3 to an old-updates directory that isnt mirrored.
3.1 & 3.3 will become symlinks to 3/ and anyone that updates will get 3.4
centos-release will have version 3/ and epoch 2 to facilitate this transition.
This is to become dag compatible and to make updates easier.
This is IMHO good news but before it happens, will there be an announcement so I can fix my rsync scripts?
Also, can someone clarify what I need to do here: Lets say I have a few machines which have never been patched. Some 3.1, some 3.3 and some 3.4. Is there a single directory that I can point them all at to get all the patches that they all need?
John.
Lance
well in fact 3.4 will actually go to 3/ and we will be moving the old repos for 3.1 & 3.3 to an old-updates directory that isnt mirrored.
3.1 & 3.3 will become symlinks to 3/ and anyone that updates will get 3.4
centos-release will have version 3/ and epoch 2 to facilitate this transition.
This is to become dag compatible and to make updates easier.
This is IMHO good news but before it happens, will there be an announcement so I can fix my rsync scripts?
It's happening now (with CentOS 3.4). In 2-3 days when Lance drops the correct files in the older trees.
Also, can someone clarify what I need to do here: Lets say I have a few machines which have never been patched. Some 3.1, some 3.3 and some 3.4. Is there a single directory that I can point them all at to get all the patches that they all need?
You should be able to point them all at a 3.4 repository and get them updated. You will have to manually install a few packages.... I'm sure you've seen and saved the messages. Your yum.conf might get run over (but saved). Once you have a 3.4 repo built (as it sounds like you are using a local mirror) you should be on your way to getting caught up.
Good luck, you can always find willing helpers in #centos.... :P
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On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 16:54 +1100, John Newbigin wrote:
Lance Davis wrote:
well in fact 3.4 will actually go to 3/ and we will be moving the old repos for 3.1 & 3.3 to an old-updates directory that isnt mirrored.
3.1 & 3.3 will become symlinks to 3/ and anyone that updates will get 3.4
centos-release will have version 3/ and epoch 2 to facilitate this transition.
This is to become dag compatible and to make updates easier.
This is IMHO good news but before it happens, will there be an announcement so I can fix my rsync scripts?
Also, can someone clarify what I need to do here: Lets say I have a few machines which have never been patched. Some 3.1, some 3.3 and some 3.4. Is there a single directory that I can point them all at to get all the patches that they all need?
It will be 3 ... or in yum.conf, $releasever ... like this:
http://whatever.xxx/xxx/centos/3/addons/$basearch
or
http://whatever.xxx/xxx/centos/$releasever/addons/$basearch
from now on ... 3 will be the $releasever, and will be the latest version.
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