Due hardware update. Many years on Fedora, would like to swap out to AMD motherboard( x570) and graphics (RX480)
I'm led to believe that Fedora Linux is too 'new' for Centos.
Question for those with experience of both, what will I miss on Centos wrt Fedora?
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
Has anyone here any 'real' drawbacks please?
I'm not a power user, not a games player, just fancy a change to AMD hardware
regards
Hello,
I recently switch from Fedora to CentOS for my work laptop.
99% of the time it's the same. Few programs can be missing by default or old version like for my professional activity : wireshark, keepassXC, linphone, sipcalc, etc..
But with a bit of compilation inside a docker (to avoid installing dev libs on the OS) or AppImage/FlatPak/Snap you can run everything.
Some default parameters on gnome are different too, just a question of configuration.
Happy with my CentOS on my laptop so far (hp envy). Much more stable. Never had a crash after hibernate/back to life or external screen not discovered for no (good) reason.
Regards, -- Arnaud
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 16:54, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Due hardware update. Many years on Fedora, would like to swap out to AMD motherboard( x570) and graphics (RX480)
I'm led to believe that Fedora Linux is too 'new' for Centos.
Question for those with experience of both, what will I miss on Centos wrt Fedora?
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
Has anyone here any 'real' drawbacks please?
I'm not a power user, not a games player, just fancy a change to AMD hardware
regards
-- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. Docbook FAQ. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Thanks Arnaud
I'm looking at AMD X570 chipset and RX480 graphics (home build). Nice to know there were no shocks.
regards
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 16:20, Arnaud Gelly arnaud.gelly@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I recently switch from Fedora to CentOS for my work laptop.
99% of the time it's the same. Few programs can be missing by default or old version like for my professional activity : wireshark, keepassXC, linphone, sipcalc, etc..
But with a bit of compilation inside a docker (to avoid installing dev libs on the OS) or AppImage/FlatPak/Snap you can run everything.
Some default parameters on gnome are different too, just a question of configuration.
Happy with my CentOS on my laptop so far (hp envy). Much more stable. Never had a crash after hibernate/back to life or external screen not discovered for no (good) reason.
Regards,
Arnaud
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 16:54, Dave Pawson dave.pawson@gmail.com wrote:
Due hardware update. Many years on Fedora, would like to swap out to AMD motherboard( x570) and graphics (RX480)
I'm led to believe that Fedora Linux is too 'new' for Centos.
Question for those with experience of both, what will I miss on Centos wrt Fedora?
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
Has anyone here any 'real' drawbacks please?
I'm not a power user, not a games player, just fancy a change to AMD hardware
regards
-- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. Docbook FAQ. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 03:53:49PM +0100, Dave Pawson wrote:
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
You should be just fine with CentOS for most cases. Check out the new Fedora Toolbox command ('toolbox') — this makes it super-easy to launch and maintain "pet" containers using podman, and you could use this to provide a Fedora working environment for when you need newer stuff. (Or conversely people running a Fedora OS can do the opposite with a CentOS container.)
One thing I'm curious about, though -- you mention installs getting to be a drag. Have you tried the update process in the last few releases? It's basically like applying a big set of updates, with no reinstall required.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 15:14, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
One thing I'm curious about, though -- you mention installs getting to be a drag. Have you tried the update process in the last few releases? It's basically like applying a big set of updates, with no reinstall required.
Yes, though I do a re-install every few updates, to spring clean or update hardware.
Dave
-- Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 10:14, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 03:53:49PM +0100, Dave Pawson wrote:
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
You should be just fine with CentOS for most cases. Check out the new Fedora Toolbox command ('toolbox') — this makes it super-easy to launch and maintain "pet" containers using podman, and you could use this to provide a Fedora working environment for when you need newer stuff. (Or conversely people running a Fedora OS can do the opposite with a CentOS container.)
One thing I'm curious about, though -- you mention installs getting to be a drag. Have you tried the update process in the last few releases? It's basically like applying a big set of updates, with no reinstall required.
It is good to do re-installs regularly to avoid problems like whatever file-system in Fedora N does not work with containers (or some other new feature).. but the Fedora N+1 filesystem does. You can only get that availability by reinstalling or creating a new file-system which you put stuff into... so in many ways a fresh install is usually good to do every 4-6 releases so that you aren't debugging 'why doesn't this new utility work'
Thanks Stephen, that was my logic, but only every year or two.
Regards
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 17:10, Stephen John Smoogen smooge@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 10:14, Matthew Miller mattdm@mattdm.org wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 03:53:49PM +0100, Dave Pawson wrote:
Not all that bothered about being 'up to the minute', and after 20+ Fedora installs it does get to be a drag...
You should be just fine with CentOS for most cases. Check out the new
Fedora
Toolbox command ('toolbox') — this makes it super-easy to launch and maintain "pet" containers using podman, and you could use this to
provide a
Fedora working environment for when you need newer stuff. (Or conversely people running a Fedora OS can do the opposite with a CentOS container.)
One thing I'm curious about, though -- you mention installs getting to
be a
drag. Have you tried the update process in the last few releases? It's basically like applying a big set of updates, with no reinstall required.
It is good to do re-installs regularly to avoid problems like whatever file-system in Fedora N does not work with containers (or some other new feature).. but the Fedora N+1 filesystem does. You can only get that availability by reinstalling or creating a new file-system which you put stuff into... so in many ways a fresh install is usually good to do every 4-6 releases so that you aren't debugging 'why doesn't this new utility work'
-- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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