If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
? I don't understand what you mean by '5.2 will have xen 3.0' .. i didn't know the goal was to step back in the past ... ;-) CentOS 5.1 contains already xen 3.0.3 (and xen-libs contains backported features from Xen 3.1) ...
What you'll not have actually is the PV drivers for Windows DomU .. but they're announced by Red Hat and they will probably be released after 5.2 ...
PS : i've seen them this week at a Red Hat partner summit .. but they are still in alpha .. but funny to see that device manager from Windows reports a 'RHEL scsi disc controller' and a 'RHEL PV nic driver' ... ;-)
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Travis Fraser wrote:
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
-- Travis Fraser travis@snowpatch.net
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I agree 100% on the VMWare or VirtualBox suggestion - VirtualBox is free, and VMWare has VMWare-Server available for free (log into the localhost with the console and it's pretty similar to VMWare Workstation 5.x).
I use XEN at work for virtualizing servers as well as some test workstations that are hosted in the Datacenter on rack equipment, however for a virtualization solution on my workstation, I don't think XEN would be my first choice - although I do have XEN loaded in a CentOS and Fedora virtual that are living in VMWare-Server on my desktop here :-)
-jayson
Travis Fraser wrote:
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
vmware is an option but I've seen a lot of issues where kernel updates break it and you have to keep running an older kernel until a fix is issued.
virtualbox I had not heard of - but it looks like the free version isn't fully functional (IE some USB device issues). I may try it - hopefully the serial port works because I must have working serial port (for communication with my garmin).
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Michael A. Peters wrote:
Travis Fraser wrote:
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
vmware is an option but I've seen a lot of issues where kernel updates break it and you have to keep running an older kernel until a fix is issued.
virtualbox I had not heard of - but it looks like the free version isn't fully functional (IE some USB device issues). I may try it - hopefully the serial port works because I must have working serial port (for communication with my garmin). _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
For VMWware, if you're running CentOS you will not run into kernel problems since CentOS 5 will stay on 2.6.18 with only minor updates. You might have to re-run vmware-config to rebuild the module, but you should have no problems otherwise. By the time Centos 6 comes out, I'm sure VMWare will caught up!
As for VirtualBox, the free version is absolutely fully functional...it's just there are 2 version, both of which are free (grais).
One is the regular edition, which doesn't cost anything, but includes some closed-source drivers and add-ons called the VirtualBox additions which are similar to the VMWare tools and/or XenTools (if you've ever used Citrix XenServer) the VirtualBox OSE is fully functional, it just doesn't include the special drivers.
It's up to you to decided with VirtualBox if you want something that is free as in beer, or free as in freedom.
Hope this clears it up for you a bit!
-jayson
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 11:54 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
Travis Fraser wrote:
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 08:57 -0700, Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
vmware is an option but I've seen a lot of issues where kernel updates break it and you have to keep running an older kernel until a fix is issued.
All you have to do in that situation is rerun the vm_ware setup script again then your gtg.
virtualbox I had not heard of - but it looks like the free version isn't fully functional (IE some USB device issues). I may try it - hopefully the serial port works because I must have working serial port (for communication with my garmin). _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Michael A. Peters wrote:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
Does that mean I will be able to run vista as guest operating system? I seem to remember reading that vista could be run under xen 3.0
I have found instructions for installing XP under xen 3.0 in Debian, so I'm hoping it vista on CentOS 5.2 will also be possible ??
There's only a small handful of apps I need/want - but they don't do well under wine (IE garmin software for putting maps on my GPS) - and I don't want to dual boot.
Why not use vmware or virtualbox? Either would work fine. You would need to do an install of Windows anyway into the virtual machine, right?
vmware is an option but I've seen a lot of issues where kernel updates break it and you have to keep running an older kernel until a fix is issued.
That happens in fedora. In centos 4, new kernels work automatically since the vmware product includes a pre-compiled module. In centos 5 you just have to recompile the module after a kernel update (or you probably could move the old one to the right place since the interface isn't supposed to change). The vmware-config.pl script will do this for you and it always works.
Michael A. Peters wrote on Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:57:33 -0700:
If I read correctly - the 5.2 release will have xen 3.0
5.0 already has Xen 3.0, do you mean 3.2? No, CentOS 5.2 won't have 3.2.
Kai
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