Hallo,
Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly, its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for computer centric discussion.
https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTky...
My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a pastebin.
Thoughts? Experiances?
Cheers,
Andrew
On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
Hallo,
Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly, its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for computer centric discussion.
https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTky...
My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a pastebin.
Thoughts? Experiances?
Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.
On 04/12/2017 05:28 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
Hallo,
Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly, its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for computer centric discussion.
https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTky...
My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a pastebin.
Thoughts? Experiances?
Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.
Might be:
Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: warning: hostname ddit888.net does not resolve to address 211.72.214.34: Name or service not known Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: connect from unknown[211.72.214.34] Apr 12 12:29:25 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: disconnect from unknown[211.72.214.34]
Not sure, it connected and then disconnected at the right time but no message. All other maillog entries at the right time are accounted for.
Don't think so. I'm getting slack mail from
Received: from mail-71-234.slack.com (mail-71-234.slack.com. [166.78.71.234])
On 12 April 2017 at 14:35, Alice Wonder alice@domblogger.net wrote:
On 04/12/2017 05:28 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 04/12/2017 05:23 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
Hallo,
Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly, its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for computer centric discussion.
https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2 NTc5LTE0OTE5OTkyNTctMjkyNGU1NWQzOA
My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a pastebin.
Thoughts? Experiances?
Well it claims to have sent me an e-mail but so far it hasn't.
Might be:
Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: warning: hostname ddit888.net does not resolve to address 211.72.214.34: Name or service not known Apr 12 12:29:23 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: connect from unknown[211.72.214.34] Apr 12 12:29:25 li796-67 postfix/smtpd[942]: disconnect from unknown[211.72.214.34]
Not sure, it connected and then disconnected at the right time but no message. All other maillog entries at the right time are accounted for.
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
Thoughts? Experiances?
been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of service.
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything. So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats? Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
-- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux! www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karanbir Singh" mail-lists@karan.org To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack
On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
Thoughts? Experiances?
been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of service.
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On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux! nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything. So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats?
Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
-- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux! www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karanbir Singh" mail-lists@karan.org To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack
On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
Thoughts? Experiances?
been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of service.
-- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux! nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything. So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Alice Wonder alice@domblogger.net wrote:
On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux! nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
anything. So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls.
IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.
True. It isn't a problem that can't be solved :)
Just inconvenient; plus the powers that be don't take kindly to circumventing restrictions they put in place, even if it is for real work.
My point is, I welcome the initiative this thread is bringing.
_______________________________________________
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Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Alice Wonder alice@domblogger.net wrote:
On 04/12/2017 09:36 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux! nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with
anything.So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
I seem to recall some web-based IRC clients existing.
True. It isn't a problem that can't be solved :)
Just inconvenient; plus the powers that be don't take kindly to circumventing restrictions they put in place, even if it is for real work.
Heh. That, and that to paraphrase Todd's disclaimers, I do not speak for the US federal gov't, or for my company... and that's why I use my own "professional" email account, rather than my federal work one, on this list.
mark
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Phelps, Matthew mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Nux! nux@li.nux.ro wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything. So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
IRC is a problem for those of us behind government/corporate firewalls. IRC is perceived as a hacker haven and is usually blocked.
I have my irc client running on a home vm which I check regularly doing workday. I know people who run irc clients on their phone.
If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats?
Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
-- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux! www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karanbir Singh" mail-lists@karan.org To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2017 13:56:53 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Enterprise Linux Slack
On 12/04/17 13:23, Andrew Holway wrote:
Thoughts? Experiances?
been talking with the mattermost people to get an instance up in centos.org space - more open source, more privacy and better terms of service.
-- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On 12/04/17 17:26, Nux! wrote:
To be honest Freenode is nice and I'd be sad to see it replaced with anything.
Dont need to replace it, MatterMost will bridge channels from one interface to another, with a mostly usable interface.
So cool to be a "/join #project" away from getting help.
If we go Mattermost, can we have a searchable public archive of the chats? Something search engines can index and we can point people to?
yeah, that can be factored in as well. There were concerns in the past from people not wanting their chat's logged and published, since in many cases as is with CentOS, people are talking about problems and potential solutions to internet facing infra / production services etc
regards
Andrew Holway wrote:
Hallo,
Considering the relative decline of IRC (sorry folks) I have set up a Slack for Enterprise Linux. I've been using "pythondev.slack.com" and honestly, its a fantastic tool for community support with really nice features for computer centric discussion.
https://enterpriselinux.slack.com/shared_invite/MTY4MTM5NjQ2NTc5LTE0OTE5OTky...
My hope is that those running Rhel and Centos can have a common place to flame war about SystemD, what to do when FreeIPA replication breaks and how to give your network interfaces sensible names without having to use a pastebin.
Thoughts? Experiances?
Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking about *instead* of this mailing list? I would very much not be happy with that, for the same reason I'm significantly less than enthused by "social media": I prefer actual written-out thoughts, and threads, and being able to intercollate comments. Social media, IMO, leans towards one sentence comments.
mark
Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking about *instead* of this mailing list?
No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Holway andrew.holway@gmail.com wrote:
Not enthused with slack. And here's a real question: were you talking about *instead* of this mailing list?
No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
I do know groups who have a mailing list and slack/fb and claim the more "progressive users" prefer the more "progressive social media channels" (facebook/slack). For those concerned that people can find what you did on irc, do you really think what is posted on slack is private? It is as private as any social media thingie out there.
FYI, in a previous job we ran our own internal irc, which was great when we had to do support (level 1 on the phone could be feeding us all with the info and question and one of us could be providing answer. Caller would be none of the wiser).
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On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet. Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any alternatives.
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Jonathan Billings billings@negate.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when compared to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
I raise your XKCD with another: https://xkcd.com/1810/
I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet. Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any alternatives.
-- Jonathan Billings billings@negate.org _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Mauricio Tavares wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Jonathan Billings billings@negate.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 07:50:32PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
No, certainly not instead of. A mailing list is essential. I'm part of a few slack communities and it seems an excellent platform for realtime discourse and noob baiting. Very sadly the #centos and #rhel freenode irc channels seem to be rather quiet these days and the irc protocol generally seems to be on the way out. IRC is a bit of a poor show when
compared
to modern platforms like Slack and Mattermost.
Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1782/
I raise your XKCD with another: https://xkcd.com/1810/I idle in #centos and #rhel and it doesn't seem particularly quiet. Maybe it's the hours -- that wouldn't change with Slack or any alternatives.
I never got into IRC. However, I'll hit y'all back: usenet.
mark "the good old days, before there were so many idiots online"
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