I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
Then one booted from the network, CD or whatever and gor right into it.
The last part I'm sure is substantially the same as before, but we do need a new recipe for creating the repo.
If it's "on the internet," I can't get at it at present; nor will I for a few days.
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use that behind a http / ftp server
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:52 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
They can only be 650 KB
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 07:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:52 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
They can only be 650 KB
Of course I meant 650 MB :P
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 07:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:52 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
They can only be 650 KB
Of course I meant 650 MB :P
Don't you have 700 Mb media? These are all okay:
-r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc4.iso -r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 693M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD4.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Aug 8 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 695M Oct 20 2005 linux/Knoppix/4.0/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 695M Oct 25 23:04 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 697M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 697M Jun 3 2006 linux/Knoppix/5.0/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 698M Oct 25 22:16 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 699M Nov 8 13:55 linux/ubuntu/6.06/edubuntu-6.06.1-live-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 699M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD5.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD3.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Aug 6 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 702M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:33 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 07:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:52 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
They can only be 650 KB
Of course I meant 650 MB :P
Don't you have 700 Mb media? These are all okay:
-r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc4.iso -r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 693M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD4.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Aug 8 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 695M Oct 20 2005 linux/Knoppix/4.0/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 695M Oct 25 23:04 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 697M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 697M Jun 3 2006 linux/Knoppix/5.0/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 698M Oct 25 22:16 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 699M Nov 8 13:55 linux/ubuntu/6.06/edubuntu-6.06.1-live-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 699M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD5.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD3.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Aug 6 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 702M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
I have 700mb media ... BUT ... that is not how RHEL is setup to build.
That is not the standard (650 MB is), nor are 700mb CDs supported on all the ARCHs we do CDs for.
I imagine we could FORK RHEL and redo a lot of things, but I bet people expect us to instead CLONE it instead.
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 23:33 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 07:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 06:52 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
>I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I >don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install. > >It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories >to a common location. >
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
They can only be 650 KB
Of course I meant 650 MB :P
Don't you have 700 Mb media? These are all okay:
-r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc4.iso -r-xr-xr-x 1 688M Apr 23 2009 linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 693M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD4.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 693M Aug 8 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 695M Oct 20 2005 linux/Knoppix/4.0/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 695M Oct 25 23:04 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 697M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 697M Jun 3 2006 linux/Knoppix/5.0/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 698M Oct 25 22:16 linux/ubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 699M Nov 8 13:55 linux/ubuntu/6.06/edubuntu-6.06.1-live-i386.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 699M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD5.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Oct 5 2005 linux/SUSE/10.0/i386/ISO/SUSE-10.0-CD-i386-GM-CD3.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 700M Aug 6 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 702M May 31 2006 linux/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
I have 700mb media ... BUT ... that is not how RHEL is setup to build.
That is not the standard (650 MB is), nor are 700mb CDs supported on all the ARCHs we do CDs for.
?? Really?
I imagine we could FORK RHEL and redo a lot of things, but I bet people expect us to instead CLONE it instead.
The size hard-coded into Anaconda isn't usually the size RH actually builds, see the FC ISO sizes above.
I've not seen RHEL5 CD images, but RH seems fairly inconsistent: beta2 was around 650, beta1 quite a deal smaller. In both cases, RH has DVD images in the same directory.
I don't see how putting the same packages on the same ISOs (which I don't think can be what you do since you won't have separate client and server sets), or making the images sizes the same is necessary to "clone" RHEL. What matters in that respect is that, as far as possible, ir works the same and has the same compatibilities with third-party software, and works the same on any particular hardware. CentOS has never cloned Red Hat's delivery process, and this is part of delivery.
John Summerfield wrote:
The size hard-coded into Anaconda isn't usually the size RH actually builds, see the FC ISO sizes above.
The size actually changes based on the best-fit that the tree spliters are using.
I don't see how putting the same packages on the same ISOs (which I don't think can be what you do since you won't have separate client and server sets), or making the images sizes the same is necessary to "clone" RHEL. What matters in that respect is that, as far as possible, ir works the same and has the same compatibilities with third-party software, and works the same on any particular hardware. CentOS has never cloned Red Hat's delivery process, and this is part of delivery.
Its also a question of why. Based on size's now, you are not going to cut down on the number of cd's you need by going to 700MB per CD ISO. And the total data you need to download is exactly the same.
And there is a lot of media out there thats still 650mb, so we'd like to keep things working with them as well.
- KB
John Summerfield wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
I'm looking at the first ISO image (I only have two so far), and I don't see instructions a repo for preparing for a network install.
It used to be basically copy all the RedHat/Fedora/CentOS directories to a common location.
that should still work, you can even loop mount the dvd iso and just use
I thought that would destroy the repo info?
that behind a http / ftp server
I couldn't find a DVD ISO, what I have is six CD-sized ISOs. Smallish ones at that, doesn't RH/Fedora make them a little bigger?
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
Les Mikesell wrote:
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
John Summerfield wrote:
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
Unless I've missed something, that involves extra work and doesn't do anything better. With NFS all there is to adding a new version of fedora/centos/k12ltsp is downloading the isos in their own directory under the nfs export and burning the first or the boot image from it.
Les Mikesell wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
Unless I've missed something, that involves extra work and doesn't do anything better. With NFS all there is to adding a new version of
With http installs, Apache logs files actually used. http is a supported install mechanism, and I should be able to set it up with these CD images.
fedora/centos/k12ltsp is downloading the isos in their own directory under the nfs export and burning the first or the boot image from it.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:34:44PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
While there is very little difference between nfs and http installs, I found that I prefered nfs because I could eject the CD and take it away after the install got going; http installs seemed to hang on to the CD until the first boot.
Of course now that I'm getting everything going with PXE (through Cobbler), I suspect the difference is again pretty much insignificant.
David Mackintosh wrote:
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 11:34:44PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
Download to a directory exported with NFS, burn the first one and boot with 'linux askmethod' at the boot prompt, pick 'nfs image' as the method and fill in the host/path information. The install does all the magic of loopback mounting the iso images for you and will switch atomatically when needed. Once it is started you can let it run unattended.
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
While there is very little difference between nfs and http installs, I found that I prefered nfs because I could eject the CD and take it away after the install got going; http installs seemed to hang on to the CD until the first boot.
I did some ks network installs of Nahant using a boot CD because the machine wouldn't network-boot. I don't recall a problem getting the CD out.
Of course now that I'm getting everything going with PXE (through Cobbler), I suspect the difference is again pretty much insignificant.
So far as getting started is concerned, a ks install is no different.
R P Herrold wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, John Summerfield wrote:
I much prefer http installs, and my kickstart scripts have evolved to expect it.
I suspect it was not evolution, but rather intelligent design ;)
-=- Russ Herrold
Oh, Ruu uss!
I suppose I should take that as a compliment:-)
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