For those not aware ansible has been deprecated in RHEL7 from the extras repository.
In the RHEL specific world it's now in an optional "product" (basically an optional subscription) that is part of any RHEL subscription, but it's opt in.
As a result ansible is back in the EPEL7 repository for 2.5.0+ , having been removed for ansible 2.4.2 when it got introduced to the RHEL extras repo.
I have no idea what, if anything, the CentOS team will do with the ansible in the CentOS7 extras repository.
On 11/04/18 13:58, James Hogarth wrote:
For those not aware ansible has been deprecated in RHEL7 from the extras repository.
In the RHEL specific world it's now in an optional "product" (basically an optional subscription) that is part of any RHEL subscription, but it's opt in.
As a result ansible is back in the EPEL7 repository for 2.5.0+ , having been removed for ansible 2.4.2 when it got introduced to the RHEL extras repo.
I have no idea what, if anything, the CentOS team will do with the ansible in the CentOS7 extras repository.
That's a good question, as "orphaning" it would be an issue for all people now getting it directly from Extras, if they don't have epel added (also "opt-in")
AFAICS, nothing is pushed to git.centos.org anymore for it : https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!ansible.git
So I guess it would be a question for the centos-devel list : - either we orphan it (and the other pkgs required for it) from extras - or we try to build those and continue to provide ansible
Am 11.04.2018 um 15:48 schrieb Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org: ...
- or we try to build those and continue to provide ansible
+1
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On 11 April 2018 at 15:39, Leon Fauster leonfauster@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 11.04.2018 um 15:48 schrieb Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org: ...
- or we try to build those and continue to provide ansible
+1
Honestly I think that would get even more confusing at that point if CentOS Extras has it when RHEL Extras no longer will ... and "RHEL Ansible Engine" exists as a product subscription for RHEL users ... and upstream have their own repos ... and over in Fedora-land we're building it for EPEL again.
If there really is a desire (understandable) to have a "CentOS Ansible" then I'd suggest centosplus as the appropriate repo for it out of the base possibilities.
On 11 Apr 2018 09:48 Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 11/04/18 13:58, James Hogarth wrote:
For those not aware ansible has been deprecated in RHEL7 from the extras repository.
In the RHEL specific world it's now in an optional "product" (basically an optional subscription) that is part of any RHEL subscription, but it's opt in.
As a result ansible is back in the EPEL7 repository for 2.5.0+ , having been removed for ansible 2.4.2 when it got introduced to the RHEL extras repo.
I have no idea what, if anything, the CentOS team will do with the ansible in the CentOS7 extras repository.
That's a good question, as "orphaning" it would be an issue for all people now getting it directly from Extras, if they don't have epel added (also "opt-in")
AFAICS, nothing is pushed to git.centos.org anymore for it : https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!ansible.git
So I guess it would be a question for the centos-devel list :
- either we orphan it (and the other pkgs required for it) from extras
- or we try to build those and continue to provide ansible
Does it really matter which repo it comes from?
I would expect the users of ansible to be smart enough to get it from epel or extras. As long as we know how to get it I do not see this as a big deal.
It seems that since it is already being built for EPEL, that would be the path of least resistance for the Centos devs.
Just my $.02
Regards,
On 11 April 2018 at 16:11, me@tdiehl.org wrote:
On 11 Apr 2018 09:48 Fabian Arrotin wrote:
On 11/04/18 13:58, James Hogarth wrote:
For those not aware ansible has been deprecated in RHEL7 from the extras repository.
In the RHEL specific world it's now in an optional "product" (basically an
optional subscription) that is part of any RHEL subscription, but it's opt in.
As a result ansible is back in the EPEL7 repository for 2.5.0+ , having
been removed for ansible 2.4.2 when it got introduced to the RHEL extras repo.
I have no idea what, if anything, the CentOS team will do with the ansible
in the CentOS7 extras repository.
That's a good question, as "orphaning" it would be an issue for all people now getting it directly from Extras, if they don't have epel added (also "opt-in")
AFAICS, nothing is pushed to git.centos.org anymore for it : https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!ansible.git
So I guess it would be a question for the centos-devel list :
- either we orphan it (and the other pkgs required for it) from extras
- or we try to build those and continue to provide ansible
Does it really matter which repo it comes from?
I would expect the users of ansible to be smart enough to get it from epel or extras. As long as we know how to get it I do not see this as a big deal.
It seems that since it is already being built for EPEL, that would be the path of least resistance for the Centos devs.
Just my $.02
Regards,
Copying from the EPEL development list as this is likely to be helpful to many here, and well be a relief as well:
On 11 April 2018 at 20:32, Dylan Silva thaumos@gmail.com wrote:
I am very afraid I am jumping into a lion's den here... However, I am going to try to alleviate some concerns.
Our move from EPEL to Extras was actually to solve for the needs of RHEL and the RHEL System Roles. We needed to be in a channel that customers could consume from that wasn't EPEL.
Upon our move to Extras, we immediately identified a problem. That problem was, we Ansible, were not able to release as often as we preferred/needed for our customers. We also were facing confusion about what did support mean once a package was inside of Extras.
As such, we made the decision to two things.
- Deprecate Ansible from Extras.
- Provide access to Ansible via a Red Hat trusted delivery mechanism.
For #2, EPEL obviously is not the route to take for some customers. So, we decided that all RHEL customers would have full access to the Subscription channel. We also specified that if a customer wanted support, they would still need to purchase a subscription.
We had a very delicate situation here. There were a lot of check and balances that had to be met before we could make any announcement. So that's why it has been "a little quiet."
The security advisory link posted above, and this link https://access.redhat.com/articles/3359651 attempt to cover the bulk of the possible questions that may arise.
That being said, we still aim to provide our customers/users the ability to obtain Ansible any way they choose. So if the user does not want to use the channel or cannot use it for any reason, they still have the ability to pull from EPEL or our releases.ansible.com pages. As far as we're concerned, it is functionally the same application no matter where it comes from.. If a customer has a subscription; they will be supported.
I, the Product Manager of Ansible Engine, am staying on top of these concerns as they come by. So far, no huge customer/user concerns have caused any alarm. Most users have embraced the moves, and have continued to automate.
Source: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject...
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