Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
Yeah... ssh into the server, vi whatever.conf re-[start|load] service, exit ssh. "the simple things are sometimes the best!" <<
Darn straight. And using ssh-agent (or Pageant with PuTTY on Windows) in conjunction with key forwarding, you can make it easy to script stuff that runs across multiple machines, thereby automating an entire server farm, if you want to. Unix admin maxim: if you have to do something more than once, write a script for it. See http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/web/SSH+for+Server+Administration?OpenDoc...
We certainly don't want to revert to the "point-and-grunt" method of doing things found in the Windows world. I thought we'd put that behind us when we stopped living in the trees.
[I considered a "wink" smiley here, but decided against it. ;) ].
Best,
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on 12/6/2007 2:57 PM Les Bell spake the following:
Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
Yeah... ssh into the server, vi whatever.conf re-[start|load] service, exit ssh. "the simple things are sometimes the best!" <<
Darn straight. And using ssh-agent (or Pageant with PuTTY on Windows) in conjunction with key forwarding, you can make it easy to script stuff that runs across multiple machines, thereby automating an entire server farm, if you want to. Unix admin maxim: if you have to do something more than once, write a script for it. See http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/web/SSH+for+Server+Administration?OpenDoc...
We certainly don't want to revert to the "point-and-grunt" method of doing things found in the Windows world. I thought we'd put that behind us when we stopped living in the trees.
[I considered a "wink" smiley here, but decided against it. ;) ].
Speaking of windows (ducking), I see that server 2008 will have a command-line only install mode. It looks like Microsoft finally realized how much usable processor time is wasted refreshing GUI screens on servers no one is even looking at. But we are still technically living in trees, but now they cut them down and make houses...;-D
Mainly it will all depend on "your" server specifications and network setup. We use VNC to remotely control the Windows boxes on the network and it does an ok job, but even T1 to T1 we have a bit of lag. We also use FreeNX for remote desktop features and it is quite fast from home to office, it does have its quirks though. So in all try them out in a lab and see which one is the best fit for you. I have to agree though that for "everyday" use ssh is just fine.
Dan
On Dec 6, 2007 6:13 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
on 12/6/2007 2:57 PM Les Bell spake the following:
Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
Yeah... ssh into the server, vi whatever.conf re-[start|load] service,
exit
ssh. "the simple things are sometimes the best!" <<
Darn straight. And using ssh-agent (or Pageant with PuTTY on Windows) in conjunction with key forwarding, you can make it easy to script stuff
that
runs across multiple machines, thereby automating an entire server farm,
if
you want to. Unix admin maxim: if you have to do something more than
once,
write a script for it. See
http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/web/SSH+for+Server+Administration?OpenDoc...
We certainly don't want to revert to the "point-and-grunt" method of
doing
things found in the Windows world. I thought we'd put that behind us
when
we stopped living in the trees.
[I considered a "wink" smiley here, but decided against it. ;) ].
Speaking of windows (ducking), I see that server 2008 will have a command-line only install mode. It looks like Microsoft finally realized how much usable processor time is wasted refreshing GUI screens on servers no one is even looking at. But we are still technically living in trees, but now they cut them down and make houses...;-D
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On Thu, Dec 06, 2007, Scott Silva wrote:
on 12/6/2007 2:57 PM Les Bell spake the following:
Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
Yeah... ssh into the server, vi whatever.conf re-[start|load] service, exit ssh. "the simple things are sometimes the best!" <<
Darn straight. And using ssh-agent (or Pageant with PuTTY on Windows) in conjunction with key forwarding, you can make it easy to script stuff that runs across multiple machines, thereby automating an entire server farm, if you want to. Unix admin maxim: if you have to do something more than once, write a script for it. See http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/web/SSH+for+Server+Administration?OpenDoc...
We certainly don't want to revert to the "point-and-grunt" method of doing things found in the Windows world. I thought we'd put that behind us when we stopped living in the trees.
[I considered a "wink" smiley here, but decided against it. ;) ].
Speaking of windows (ducking), I see that server 2008 will have a command-line only install mode. It looks like Microsoft finally realized how much usable processor time is wasted refreshing GUI screens on servers no one is even looking at.
At one time I had a system monitor running on an NT machine which provide a pretty display of CPU usage over time, and noticed that an idle machine with nothing but a ``screen saver'' running seemed to have about 30% CPU utilization which dropped near zero as soon as some activity shut the screen saver down.
Granted, this was probably 8 years ago and processors are faster, but it's still indicative of M$-Bloat.
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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:56:31 -0800 Bill Campbell centos@celestial.com wrote:
an idle machine with nothing but a ``screen saver'' running seemed to have about 30% CPU utilization which dropped near zero as soon as some activity shut the screen saver down.
Some screensavers on Linux do the same thing. However, it's my understanding that they run at a low priority so if some other job needs the CPU for something it just backs off and allows the other jobs to run.
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