On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:18 pm, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 29.10.2014 um 22:12 schrieb Valeri Galtsev:

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On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:02 pm, Beartooth wrote:

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:44:42 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

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... Basically, if one thinks he knows more than system vendor, he is just schizophrenic. And we, normal people, do give schizophrenics a privilege to be on their own. As we, normal people know that if the distro maintainers had to update kernel, they had a reason (otherwise, something else breaks). So, we are left running _this_ system, even though it's stressful, still not as stressful as running "bleeding edge" fedora, right? ;-)

What? Stressful?? Fedora??? Naaahhh ...

I'm sorry, apart from my laptop, I also run servers. And services are supposed to be up 24/7. And a bunch of people are always logged in... You do the math

you where the one calling kernel updates necessity, so just ignore them or face the truth - your choice

so what - if you need 24/7 than invest time and money and build up a infrsatsructure wehre you can reboot a node for updates without taking the services offline or just realize that 15-20 seconds downtime in the middle of the night doing way less harm then ignore security updates

Yep, that's exactly what I did. I do not feel justified to use Department's money (for extra hardware), so I invested just my time. And built servers based on FreeBSD, services run in different jails, etc. So, you can imagine how much I am hit by the need to reboot into updated Linux kernel, do you? Note, you will not find Linux kernel running of FreeBSD box (just teasing ;-)

Valeri

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