I *loathe* dnsorbs.... Maybe this one will get through its crap. Maybe if I add a few more words....
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do
I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
Please cc me offlist, if this goes through.
I hope you get 20,000 replies :)
Nope, jes' one, so far. <snip>
You _could_ just have checked the archive.
Actually, I went to the archives, and at least saw something from *sigh* Bennett that was dated 12:34 or so today; that was why I asked. Dunno if someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or....
Thanks, though.
mark
On 01/09/2012 07:31 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I *loathe* dnsorbs.... Maybe this one will get through its crap. Maybe if I add a few more words....
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do
I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
Please cc me offlist, if this goes through.
I hope you get 20,000 replies :)
Nope, jes' one, so far.
<snip> > You _could_ just have checked the archive.
Actually, I went to the archives, and at least saw something from *sigh* Bennett that was dated 12:34 or so today; that was why I asked. Dunno if someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or....
I have seen few times when several replies came 2-3 hours before the original thread starter. I think Grey-listing could be responsible.
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
On 01/09/2012 07:31 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I *loathe* dnsorbs.... Maybe this one will get through its crap. Maybe if I add a few more words....
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
<snip>
You _could_ just have checked the archive.
Actually, I went to the archives, and at least saw something from *sigh* Bennett that was dated 12:34 or so today; that was why I asked. Dunno if someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or....
I have seen few times when several replies came 2-3 hours before the original thread starter. I think Grey-listing could be responsible.
Yeah, but grey-listing *outbound*?
#include <indignant.h> Or were you suggesting my email was grey-listed?
mark "actually, my cloak is green, not grey"
On 01/09/2012 07:43 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
On 01/09/2012 07:31 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I *loathe* dnsorbs.... Maybe this one will get through its crap. Maybe if I add a few more words....
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
<snip> >>> You _could_ just have checked the archive. >> >> Actually, I went to the archives, and at least saw something from *sigh* >> Bennett that was dated 12:34 or so today; that was why I asked. Dunno if >> someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is >> delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or.... > > I have seen few times when several replies came 2-3 hours before the > original thread starter. I think Grey-listing could be responsible.
Yeah, but grey-listing *outbound*?
#include<indignant.h> Or were you suggesting my email was grey-listed?
I am officially confused. You said you were not *receiving* *any* mails from the list. So my assumption was inbound mail from mailing list to you. That is what happened to me.
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
On 01/09/2012 07:43 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
<snip>
someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or....
I have seen few times when several replies came 2-3 hours before the original thread starter. I think Grey-listing could be responsible.
Yeah, but grey-listing *outbound*?
#include<indignant.h> Or were you suggesting my email was grey-listed?
I am officially confused. You said you were not *receiving* *any* mails from the list. So my assumption was inbound mail from mailing list to you. That is what happened to me.
Right. And I get my email from this list during the day via wegmail, and my email is on hosting I pay for, not my ISP's server, and I don't have filtering enabled in any way. (Great, now all the spammers reading this list will offer me pills to enlarge and/or firm up some portion of my anatomy or wallet....) Therefore, I don't understand where the greylisting you're suggesting would occur, unless it's on the CentOS host.
mark
On 1/9/2012 10:31 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I *loathe* dnsorbs.... Maybe this one will get through its crap. Maybe if I add a few more words....
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 12:49:31PM -0500, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
I haven't gotten anything from the list since my email of 09:34 EST. Do
I have a problem, or is the list quiet?
Please cc me offlist, if this goes through.
I hope you get 20,000 replies :)
Nope, jes' one, so far.
<snip> > You _could_ just have checked the archive. Actually, I went to the archives, and at least saw something from *sigh* Bennett that was dated 12:34 or so today; that was why I asked. Dunno if someone (NOT my hosting co - I don't have any filtering turned on) is delaying, or filtering, or if I'd been dropped for some reason, or....
In response to this message from *sigh* Mark, I dug up a bounce message that I got when trying to send email to this list yesterday. The bounce indicated that at the time, all mail from Gmail (or at least one particular Gmail SMTP server) was being blocked. I followed the link in the bounce message and got the IP of that SMTP server removed from the blacklist.
Maybe the blacklist server had temporarly gotten into a state where it was reporting all IP addresses as spam sources (not just gmail). Or more generally, if a spam filter is so aggressive that it starts blocking all mail from Gmail, it's probably aggressive enough that it erratically blocks mail from lots of other sources as well. (If that had been the case though, you presumably would have gotten a bounce message like I did.)
Here is the bounce message:
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
centos-docs@centos.org
Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 554 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [209.85.210.179] blocked using ix.dnsbl.manitu.net; Your e-mail service was detected by mx.selfip.biz (NiX Spam) as spamming at Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:02:35 +0100. Your admin should visit http://www.dnsbl.manitu.net/lookup.php?value=209.85.210.179 (state 14).
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