Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
Thanks.
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you ask for help on the correct mailing.
Regards,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, me@tdiehl.org wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that
keeps
flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you
Maybe he's using an RPM from Scientific Linux http://www.scientificlinux.org/distributions/5x/features/added
ask for help on the correct mailing.
Regardless, CentOS doesn't package pine/alpine.
Regards,
-- Tom me@tdiehl.org Spamtrap address me123@tdiehl.org _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, me@tdiehl.org wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you ask for help on the correct mailing.
I got it from @epel repositories: Installed Packages alpine.x86_64 2.03-2.el6 @epel
It seems fairly common in the Fedora/CentOS realm to rely on packages from other key repositories. Rackspace recommends installing yum repo files for CentOS.
As for (al)pine, it's an easier mail client (for me) than mutt.
On CentOS 5, installations of the alpine rpm included the /etc/*conf files.
Regards,
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, me@tdiehl.org wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that
keeps
flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
There is no alpine rpm in Centos 6. Where did you get that? Suggest you ask for help on the correct mailing.
I got it from @epel repositories: Installed Packages alpine.x86_64 2.03-2.el6 @epel
Gotcha. EPEL/Fedora would be the ones to ask. Chances are you'll find someone there who uses alpine. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo
There are many Fedora mailing lists -- the Users list is a good place to start. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
It seems fairly common in the Fedora/CentOS realm to rely on packages from other key repositories. Rackspace recommends installing yum repo files for CentOS.
As for (al)pine, it's an easier mail client (for me) than mutt.
On CentOS 5, installations of the alpine rpm included the /etc/*conf files.
Regards,
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Max Pyziur wrote:
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the "folder vulnerable", then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.
mark
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the "folder vulnerable", then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.
Ok, then.
I find the "users" list on fedoraproject challenging.
The stated vulnerability is a known bug in alpine, and it has been there for a long time. Many lists have complaints about it, but it doesn't seem to get the attention of the developers/maintainers.
Likewise, ours are set to 775, inboxes set to 600 (that way dovecot doesn't complain).
mark
Thank you for your help.
MP
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
Also, how did you get rid of the annoying alpine bug: a message that keeps flashing - [Folder vulnerable - directory /var/spool/mail must have 1777 protection]?
I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the "folder vulnerable", then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.
Ok, then.
I find the "users" list on fedoraproject challenging.
Heh, heh. We can be touchy, here, too... but when someone comes in who's actually read manpages, and googled, before coming here - in other words, they don't expect us to do their jobs, just help them do it, we usually try to help.
The stated vulnerability is a known bug in alpine, and it has been there for a long time. Many lists have complaints about it, but it doesn't seem to get the attention of the developers/maintainers.
Oh. Right. Fixing bugs isn't "sexy", esp. when it's an annoying invalid message. I wish upstream would do something about that annoying complaint in my logfiles about "hung task" that tells me how to turn it off....
Likewise, ours are set to 775, inboxes set to 600 (that way dovecot doesn't complain).
Sounds good to me.
Thank you for your help.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
mark
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
[...]
I *really* think you ought to ask in those repos, or alpine's mailing list. What's bothering me is it asserting that the "folder vulnerable", then saying that it needs to be world-read/writeable; ours are all 775.
Ok, then.
I find the "users" list on fedoraproject challenging.
Heh, heh. We can be touchy, here, too... but when someone comes in who's actually read manpages, and googled, before coming here - in other words, they don't expect us to do their jobs, just help them do it, we usually try to help.
Aggressiveness is less of an issue. Getting good signal (relative to ad-hominem noise) is important.
Twenty years ago, Usenet with a good reader got big/thick signal, especially on the tech lists.
However since then, projects have become numerous and varied, as have sources of information (email lists, web-based discussions, etc). Finding good, clear, authoritative, and consistent "signal" is difficult, especially when you find yourself in a jam.
And Usenet is effectively gone.
[...]
Thank you for your help.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
8-)
mark
MP pyz@brama.com
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
[...]
I find the "users" list on fedoraproject challenging.
Heh, heh. We can be touchy, here, too... but when someone comes in who's actually read manpages, and googled, before coming here - in other words, they don't expect us to do their jobs, just help them do it, we
usually
try to help.
Aggressiveness is less of an issue. Getting good signal (relative to ad-hominem noise) is important.
Twenty years ago, Usenet with a good reader got big/thick signal, especially on the tech lists.
However since then, projects have become numerous and varied, as have sources of information (email lists, web-based discussions, etc). Finding good, clear, authoritative, and consistent "signal" is difficult, especially when you find yourself in a jam.
And Usenet is effectively gone.
It's still there. And some newsgroups are still busy, though not like in the good days of the early nineties.
mark, Big 8 newsgroup co-creator, ret'd
On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:25:31 -0400, m.roth-x6lchVBUigD1P9xLtpHBDw wrote: [....]
And Usenet is effectively gone.
It's still there. And some newsgroups are still busy, though not like in the good days of the early nineties.
Indeed, alas! But there is Gmane, which is a huge help, especially for those of us who are still (and doubtless irremediably) subtechnoid. In particular, point your reader (Let's hear it for Pan, too! ) at news.gmane.org, and look at fedora.general.
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 06:14 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
yes, they are ghost files, not really included in the package
Louis
On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 06:14 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Greetings,
The alpine mail rpm indicates that it comes packaged with configuration files (/etc/pine*conf*). However, they aren't there. Possible?
yes, they are ghost files, not really included in the package
I cribbed mine from a prior release from another machine of mine, and dropped them in /etc.
One favorite of mine is being able to <ctrl>-Z out of a program. The default installation of alpine, with no *.conf files, wouldn't allow that. Now, I can.
Louis
Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com
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