I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
I hate HP inkjets (ok, the huge Designjet we have is different, but that's a multi-thousand-dollar poster printer).
Cannon's ok, I think. Haven't been looking for years. On the other hand, if you mostly print black and white, consider an inexpensive HP LJ (*those* they make well). I have an LJ1018 (discontinued, replaced by higher numbers) that I bought in '07? '08? for $128 at MicroCenter... and on the spot got a $64 rebate.... I buy "compatible" toner (I have a favorite vendor online, less than half the cost of HPs, *including* shipping). 10pp/min. And yes, it does. And it's little. And cute. And doesn't take up much of my desk at home.
mark
On Tue, July 11, 2017 2:20 pm, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
I would go with inexpensive HP color laser printer. Laser printers can sit for long time without use, without degrading, once you need it, it will work. HP is the ones I would recommend - so far I didn't see HP printers broken, or out of supplies which are not manufactured anymore (stay away from Xerox in any event: I had to throw away several color laser Xerox printers because Xerox stopped making toners for them, and Xerox did all to thwart "aftermarket" compatible supplies).
The only disadvantage of laser printer compared to ink is if you need to print high quality photographs: ink of different colors blends, whereas powder in laser printer doesn't. But all on all if you are not picky, photographs printed on laser printers look great too. Only people with special needs will be unhappy with laser and will go with ink for photographs.
I hope, this helps.
Valeri
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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 02:47:47PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Tue, July 11, 2017 2:20 pm, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
I would go with inexpensive HP color laser printer. Laser printers can sit for long time without use, without degrading, once you need it, it will work.
Another +1 for laser. My wife does editing and had a need for fast printing of large documents including color for comments etc. We went with a large Ricoh printer about 10 years ago. Still in use after about 300,000 pages.
At the time we had a PhotoJet for printing pictures. The quality of the laser prints was sufficient for our needs so the PJ sits in a closet.
One thing that helps the appearance of laser printed photos is to use a heavy, high gloss paper.
Jon
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Jon LaBadie jcu@labadie.us wrote:
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 02:47:47PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Tue, July 11, 2017 2:20 pm, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
I would go with inexpensive HP color laser printer. Laser printers can sit for long time without use, without degrading, once you need it, it will work.
Another +1 for laser. My wife does editing and had a need for fast printing of large documents including color for comments etc. We went with a large Ricoh printer about 10 years ago. Still in use after about 300,000 pages.
At the time we had a PhotoJet for printing pictures. The quality of the laser prints was sufficient for our needs so the PJ sits in a closet.
One thing that helps the appearance of laser printed photos is to use a heavy, high gloss paper.
If you read Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy, you will remember there is a circle in hell where the only printer is an inkjet one and behind it there are an infinite number of toners, half of them with just one digit in its part number off and the other half with dried out nozzles. Go read it again; I beleive it is the circle where Comcast managers get thrown at.
There are reasonably priced colour laser printers out there. They might not be $50 but you don't have to spend a grand for one.
Jon
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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 02:20:50PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have a hp photosmart C3180 all-in-one and am well and truly sick of it. It seems like every time I go on another printing binge, I need yet another print cartridge. hp-clean doesn't help. IIRC this use it or lose it "feature" is common to inkjets.
What should I replace it with? If I want a non-cloggging printer, is laser jet the way I need to go? I'd like to do color occasionally, but might not want to pay the price for a color laser.
I faced the same issue some years ago, and found a low-priced mono laser that lated me quite a few years. no color, but few thing I wanted to print actually demanded color.
On 7/11/2017 3:58 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
I faced the same issue some years ago, and found a low-priced mono laser that lated me quite a few years. no color, but few thing I wanted to print actually demanded color.
my last two laser printers have been Brother black&white all-in-ones ("MFC"). *VERY* cheap per page printing costs, even if you use Brother brand toner cartridges. They make useful copy machines, they are fast (22 page per minute, very short first page warmup). The newer one we now have does double sided scanning, and double sided printing. Both of these are ethernet/network printers. decent linux support for printing. the scanner function can direct email scans in PDF or JPG format, so there's no need for linux drivers for scanning.
I have a seperate Canon Pro100 large format color photo printer, this is an ink jet, uses 8 seperate color cartridges. on glossy photo paper, it makes photos that look like they came from a pro photo lab with very good subtle color rendering and wide gamut range. fairly expensive per page. Unclear if there's linux support for these (my color printing all comes from Windows).
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 04:09:15PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 7/11/2017 3:58 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
I faced the same issue some years ago, and found a low-priced mono laser that lated me quite a few years. no color, but few thing I wanted to print actually demanded color.
my last two laser printers have been Brother black&white all-in-ones ("MFC"). *VERY* cheap per page printing costs, even if you use Brother brand toner cartridges. They make useful copy machines, they are fast (22 page per minute, very short first page warmup). The newer one we now have does double sided scanning, and double sided printing. Both of these are ethernet/network printers. decent linux support for printing. the scanner function can direct email scans in PDF or JPG format, so there's no need for linux drivers for scanning.
I can second the Brother printers. My original one (HL-2070N) was supported well by one of the free printer drivers already available on Linux. More recently we have a MFC that works great with the Brother drivers for Linux.
Another vote for Brother printer Linux support, an MFC8510DN (and we haven't had issues with it either).
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Smith" fredex@fcshome.STONEHAM.ma.us To: "centos" centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:34:05 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] getting rid of hp c3180
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 04:09:15PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
On 7/11/2017 3:58 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
I faced the same issue some years ago, and found a low-priced mono laser that lated me quite a few years. no color, but few thing I wanted to print actually demanded color.
my last two laser printers have been Brother black&white all-in-ones ("MFC"). *VERY* cheap per page printing costs, even if you use Brother brand toner cartridges. They make useful copy machines, they are fast (22 page per minute, very short first page warmup). The newer one we now have does double sided scanning, and double sided printing. Both of these are ethernet/network printers. decent linux support for printing. the scanner function can direct email scans in PDF or JPG format, so there's no need for linux drivers for scanning.
I can second the Brother printers. My original one (HL-2070N) was supported well by one of the free printer drivers already available on Linux. More recently we have a MFC that works great with the Brother drivers for Linux.
Does a Canon MF232W work with Centos?
From
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/b... I got the following message: There is no driver for the OS Version you selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a driver. It had autodetected linux 64-bit. To me, that suggests that I should be able to connect it and it should pretty much just work. Am I correct?
On 20/07/17 07:29, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Does a Canon MF232W work with Centos?
From
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/b...
I got the following message: There is no driver for the OS Version you selected. The driver may be included in your OS or you may not need a driver. It had autodetected linux 64-bit. To me, that suggests that I should be able to connect it and it should pretty much just work. Am I correct?
My guess would be no. It appears to use a proprietary built in engine that will need a driver and Canon don't appear to provide drivers for Linux for that model. I'd be very surprised if it will work.
I'd recommend you look for a model with good Linux support, preferably based upon a Postscript/PCL engine.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Phil Perry wrote:
On 20/07/17 07:29, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Does a Canon MF232W work with Centos?
My guess would be no. It appears to use a proprietary built in engine that will need a driver and Canon don't appear to provide drivers for Linux for that model. I'd be very surprised if it will work.
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h... I infer that the "Driver Install Tool" will install the four listed rpms, probably from a script. Is that the way to go? Printer installs have given me so much joy in the past, that I approach them with fear and trepidation.
Also, my original notes do not contain the second L in HL-L2360DW. Its presence here is the result of inference. If someone has reason to believe it an erroneous inference, please let me know.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:27:14PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Phil Perry wrote:
On 20/07/17 07:29, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Does a Canon MF232W work with Centos?
My guess would be no. It appears to use a proprietary built in engine that will need a driver and Canon don't appear to provide drivers for Linux for that model. I'd be very surprised if it will work.
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h... I infer that the "Driver Install Tool" will install the four listed rpms, probably from a script. Is that the way to go? Printer installs have given me so much joy in the past, that I approach them with fear and trepidation.
I've installed brother drivers by hand, and it involves working through a somewhat cryptic list of modifications you need to do to your Linux system.
other times I use their driver install tool and let it do what is needed.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Fred Smith wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:27:14PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h... I infer that the "Driver Install Tool" will install the four listed rpms, probably from a script. Is that the way to go? Printer installs have given me so much joy in the past, that I approach them with fear and trepidation.
I've installed brother drivers by hand, and it involves working through a somewhat cryptic list of modifications you need to do to your Linux system.
other times I use their driver install tool and let it do what is needed.
Thanks.
If I use the install tool, does it matter whether I have the printer connected during the install? I'll be using USB 2.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 07:41:32PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Fred Smith wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:27:14PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h... I infer that the "Driver Install Tool" will install the four listed rpms, probably from a script. Is that the way to go? Printer installs have given me so much joy in the past, that I approach them with fear and trepidation.
I've installed brother drivers by hand, and it involves working through a somewhat cryptic list of modifications you need to do to your Linux system.
other times I use their driver install tool and let it do what is needed.
Thanks.
If I use the install tool, does it matter whether I have the printer connected during the install? I'll be using USB 2.
sorry, I don't know the answer to that question.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Fred Smith wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 03:27:14PM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h...
If I use the install tool, does it matter whether I have the printer connected during the install?
It does. The directions that came in the box say to do so, but I forgot. The result was that the test page went to my old printer.
Telling CUPS about it wasn't too bad. Just went through the "add Printer" menus.
BTW one has to read the box fairly carefully to realize that the printer comes with toner. One has to make an inference from the term "replacement cartridge".
Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Phil Perry wrote:
On 20/07/17 07:29, Michael Hennebry wrote:
Does a Canon MF232W work with Centos?
My guess would be no. It appears to use a proprietary built in engine that will need a driver and Canon don't appear to provide drivers for Linux for that model. I'd be very surprised if it will work.
Next on the list is a Brother HL-L2360DW. It appears to work with linux. I got as far as this page: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h... I infer that the "Driver Install Tool" will install the four listed rpms, probably from a script. Is that the way to go? Printer installs have given me so much joy in the past, that I approach them with fear and trepidation.
Also, my original notes do not contain the second L in HL-L2360DW. Its presence here is the result of inference. If someone has reason to believe it an erroneous inference, please let me know.
Just as a datapoint, my cute little HP 1018 is a "winprinter", meaning that I have to send it some data to make it work with Linux. I fire that off whenever I wake my router up (DD-WRT forgets about it). It does work, then.
mark
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