What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
Thanks.
Scott
--- Scott Ehrlich scott@MIT.EDU wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
Thanks.
Scott _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
When Ever They Decide to Release IT..... That is the Time Line!!!!!
Steven
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows or better'. So I installed Linux."
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT), Scott wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
You disgusting pig. How DARE you ask such a question. Those developers are working as hard as they can, and all you can do is pressure them to take time out of their day to make up for your ignorance! Do you pay them to work? No! They don't answer to you--you got that?!
You're probably American.
Go to HELL!
Miark
P.S. Probably 'bout a week. But you didn't hear that from me. :-D
If this was an attempt at humor, it may not come across that way to everyone.
We need a kinder, gentler centos.
Yes, it's me asking for this, and no I'm not on medication. :-P
On 4/5/07, Miark mlist@gardnerbusiness.com wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT), Scott wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
You disgusting pig. How DARE you ask such a question. Those developers are working as hard as they can, and all you can do is pressure them to take time out of their day to make up for your ignorance! Do you pay them to work? No! They don't answer to you--you got that?!
You're probably American.
Go to HELL!
Miark
P.S. Probably 'bout a week. But you didn't hear that from me. :-D
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:54:50AM -0400, Jim Perrin enlightened us:
If this was an attempt at humor, it may not come across that way to everyone.
We need a kinder, gentler centos.
Yes, it's me asking for this, and no I'm not on medication. :-P
Clearly. Did your 'script run out or something? If so, I've got some e-mails here I can forward to you where you can get some GREAT deals on the Internet... ;-)
Matt
No, it was his lame attempt at sarcasm, probably directed at my earlier reply to someone else asking the same redundant question that keeps getting asked over and over.
Seems we have new people joining everyday the list just to ask the question, when will CentOS5 be released.
Matt
On 4/5/07, Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote:
If this was an attempt at humor, it may not come across that way to everyone.
We need a kinder, gentler centos.
Yes, it's me asking for this, and no I'm not on medication. :-P
On 4/5/07, Miark mlist@gardnerbusiness.com wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT), Scott wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
You disgusting pig. How DARE you ask such a question. Those developers are working as hard as they can, and all you can do is pressure them to take time out of their day to make up for your ignorance! Do you pay them to work? No! They don't answer to you--you got that?!
You're probably American.
Go to HELL!
Miark
P.S. Probably 'bout a week. But you didn't hear that from me. :-D
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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The list now needs a 'READ THIS FAQ BEFORE YOU POST' page somewhere..
That includes the most commonly asked questions like:
"When will CentOS 5 be released?"
"When will kernel support for XX be included?"
"Why is it CentOS isn't like Fedora Core?"
"How do I create a virtual domain in Apache?"
And my absolute favorite portion of any List-FAQ is the part about:
"Is the post you're about to make relevant to the list's stated purpose, and is it formulated as an answerable question: A beginner's guide to list etiquette, clear thinking, and formulation of the question."
Because, proper formulation of the question often presents the answer.
Peter
Matt Shields wrote:
No, it was his lame attempt at sarcasm, probably directed at my earlier reply to someone else asking the same redundant question that keeps getting asked over and over.
Seems we have new people joining everyday the list just to ask the question, when will CentOS5 be released.
Matt
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:54:47 -0700, Peter Serwe wrote:
The list now needs a 'READ THIS FAQ BEFORE YOU POST' page somewhere..
That includes the most commonly asked questions like:
"When will CentOS 5 be released?"
"When will kernel support for XX be included?"
"Why is it CentOS isn't like Fedora Core?"
"How do I create a virtual domain in Apache?"
And my absolute favorite portion of any List-FAQ is the part about:
"Is the post you're about to make relevant to the list's stated purpose, and is it formulated as an answerable question: A beginner's guide to list etiquette, clear thinking, and formulation of the question."
Because, proper formulation of the question often presents the answer.
Peter
Matt Shields wrote:
No, it was his lame attempt at sarcasm, probably directed at my earlier reply to someone else asking the same redundant question that keeps getting asked over and over.
Seems we have new people joining everyday the list just to ask the question, when will CentOS5 be released.
Matt
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
Akemi
On 4/5/07, Akemi Yagi amyagi@gmail.com wrote:
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
rgds/ldv
On 4/5/07, Larry Vaden vaden@texoma.net wrote:
On 4/5/07, Akemi Yagi amyagi@gmail.com wrote:
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
I guess this says something about professionals and this list....
:-)
Mark Hull-Richter, Linux Kernel Engineer DATAllegro (www.datallegro.com) 85 Enterprise, Second Floor, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 949-680-3082 - Office 949-330-7691 - fax
I guess this says something about professionals and this list....
:-)
I'm reminded of some metaphor about glass houses and rocks....
Mark Hull-Richter, Linux Kernel Engineer DATAllegro (www.datallegro.com) 85 Enterprise, Second Floor, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 949-680-3082 - Office 949-330-7691 - fax
On 4/5/07, Jim Perrin jperrin@gmail.com wrote:
I guess this says something about professionals and this list....
:-)
I'm reminded of some metaphor about glass houses and rocks....
That, too. ;^D
mhr
Jim Perrin wrote:
I guess this says something about professionals and this list....
:-)
I'm reminded of some metaphor about glass houses and rocks....
I was thinking of changing light bulbs.
On 4/5/07, John Summerfield debian@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:
Jim Perrin wrote:
I guess this says something about professionals and this list....
:-)
I'm reminded of some metaphor about glass houses and rocks....
I was thinking of changing light bulbs.
You could always mirror some of the glass....
mhr
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
Most professionals are a loose definition of the term. It depends primarily on the data need though. For archival purposes, you want the data to flow in a meaningful fashion so that people can look up the material and follow it in a logical manner. Most people are just concerned with GIVE IT TO ME NOW, so they want it at the top. Microsoft and other companies producing email clients have reinforced this lazy belief by prepending in the reply.
For business emails and such that don't matter, top posting is probably fine. For archived mailing lists, coherent threading is key so that the information can be referenced later.
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Prentice
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jim Perrin Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:57 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Re: Centos 5 timeline?
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
Most professionals are a loose definition of the term. It depends primarily on the data need though. For archival purposes, you want the data to flow in a meaningful fashion so that people can look up the material and follow it in a logical manner. Most people are just concerned with GIVE IT TO ME NOW, so they want it at the top. Microsoft and other companies producing email clients have reinforced this lazy belief by prepending in the reply.
For business emails and such that don't matter, top posting is probably fine. For archived mailing lists, coherent threading is key so that the information can be referenced later.
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You wrote
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Properly setup and using plain text, outlook does add ">"
Gerald
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29:27AM -0400, Bisbal, Prentice wrote:
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
There's an option to make it do the right thing.
But consider this: if you're posting asking for help from a list, is it more considerate to do what's easy and lazy for you but more difficult for those volunteering their time to help you -- or the other way around?
Seg, 2007-04-09 Ã s 10:29 -0400, Bisbal, Prentice escreveu:
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Yeah, real ones aren't ;)
("duck 'n' cover") Rui
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29:27AM -0400, Bisbal, Prentice said:
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Bah!
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29:27AM -0400, Bisbal, Prentice wrote:
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Bah, that's nonsense. There are options that can be twiddled. Why, by default Outlook posts in Word- generated HTML junk and you managed to fix that!
David Mackintosh wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:29:27AM -0400, Bisbal, Prentice wrote:
Also remember that most of us "professionals" are forced to use MS Outlook for our mail client, and Outlook makes it impossible (or at least difficult) to bottom-post or inter-post and understand what is new text, and what is from the previous e-mail - It doesn't add ">" to the start of lines from the previous e-mail to delineate who said what.
Bah, that's nonsense. There are options that can be twiddled. Why, by default Outlook posts in Word- generated HTML junk and you managed to fix that!
I'm a Unix guy, so I hate dealing with Windows and Outlook, but look - I'm using Outlook-Quotefix now and all is right with the world again.
-- Prentice
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 02:48:27PM -0500, Larry Vaden wrote:
If I am allowed to add one more thing: Please do not top-post.
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
It may be a personal preference, but if you'd prefer to respect the people providing you help on a mailing list, you'd do well to use the format that is easier for those helping. Top-posting is another way of saying "my time is more valuable than yours." Don't do it.
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:48:27 -0500, Larry Vaden wrote:
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
One compelling reason to avoid top post on this particular mailing list; at least one member of the developers (was it KB? or Jim? definitely not Johnny) declared that he would not respond if you keep top-posting. I want answers from them badly...
Akemi
Larry Vaden wrote:
On 4/5/07, Akemi Yagi amyagi@gmail.com wrote:
Please do not top-post.
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
these aren't "professional records", these are discussions. any 'records' would be in your mail programs folders, which you can sort any way you like.
John R Pierce spake the following on 4/5/2007 2:37 PM:
Larry Vaden wrote:
On 4/5/07, Akemi Yagi amyagi@gmail.com wrote:
Please do not top-post.
This is a personal preference; most professional records are kept with the most recent item on top (read: at the front) of a physical file. Even the public library does it that way :)
these aren't "professional records", these are discussions. any 'records' would be in your mail programs folders, which you can sort any way you like.
I personally don't care if it is at the top or at the bottom, as long as it isn't scattered top, bottom, middle, top, bottom, bottom, top, middle...
Now that is some difficult reading.
If everyone had a threaded mail client, you could just reply with no previous content, and follow the thread.
Now that would be clean. ;-P
Scott Silva wrote:
If everyone had a threaded mail client, you could just reply with no previous content, and follow the thread.
Not really. Threads fork, as you and I reply to Fred, then Joanna replies to both...
Besides the random nature of folk's replies to the thread, the order of email set to point A (centos.org in this case) to point B (my email server at ns.demo.lan - yes, that's where my email goes to) is not guaranteed.
A server along the way finds the end-point is unreachable, the mail's queued. Next time, the path is clear and the mail goes straight through. Some time later (an hour or so), it retries queued mail and it goes through.
Often, the head of thread is well down the queue by the time it arrives here. My example is extreme - ns.demo.lan is both behind a firewall, and separated from the Internet by a dialup modem. Often, it's only up four hours in the day.
Less extreme examles abound - how often does Google.com fail to resolve on one attempt, then work fine the next?
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, John Summerfield wrote:
Less extreme examles abound - how often does Google.com fail to resolve on one attempt, then work fine the next?
Given that the TTL for google.com's public DNS entries is only 300 seconds -- quite often, especially in a high-latency environment.
John R Pierce wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Please do not top-post.
and, trim the quoting to a reasonable amount of relevant material sufficient to provide context.
I usually don't top-post. That was an unfortunate oversight that spawned hours of amusement for all involved though. :-D
Peter
Why not?
;)
Prentice
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi Yagi Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:26 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Re: Centos 5 timeline?
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:54:47 -0700, Peter Serwe wrote:
The list now needs a 'READ THIS FAQ BEFORE YOU POST' page somewhere..
That includes the most commonly asked questions like:
"When will CentOS 5 be released?"
"When will kernel support for XX be included?"
"Why is it CentOS isn't like Fedora Core?"
"How do I create a virtual domain in Apache?"
And my absolute favorite portion of any List-FAQ is the part about:
"Is the post you're about to make relevant to the list's stated purpose, and is it formulated as an answerable question: A beginner's guide to list etiquette, clear thinking, and formulation of the
question."
Because, proper formulation of the question often presents the answer.
Peter
Matt Shields wrote:
No, it was his lame attempt at sarcasm, probably directed at my earlier reply to someone else asking the same redundant question that
keeps getting asked over and over.
Seems we have new people joining everyday the list just to ask the question, when will CentOS5 be released.
Matt
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
Akemi
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On 4/9/07, Bisbal, Prentice PBisbal@lexpharma.com wrote:
Why not?
;)
Prentice
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Akemi Yagi Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:26 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Re: Centos 5 timeline?
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:54:47 -0700, Peter Serwe wrote:
The list now needs a 'READ THIS FAQ BEFORE YOU POST' page somewhere..
That includes the most commonly asked questions like:
"When will CentOS 5 be released?"
"When will kernel support for XX be included?"
"Why is it CentOS isn't like Fedora Core?"
"How do I create a virtual domain in Apache?"
And my absolute favorite portion of any List-FAQ is the part about:
"Is the post you're about to make relevant to the list's stated purpose, and is it formulated as an answerable question: A beginner's guide to list etiquette, clear thinking, and formulation of the
question."
Because, proper formulation of the question often presents the answer.
Peter
Matt Shields wrote:
No, it was his lame attempt at sarcasm, probably directed at my earlier reply to someone else asking the same redundant question that
keeps getting asked over and over.
Seems we have new people joining everyday the list just to ask the question, when will CentOS5 be released.
Matt
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
Akemi
For exactly this reason - you try and follow the twists in this email thread....
Mark Hull-Richter, Linux Kernel Engineer DATAllegro (www.datallegro.com) 85 Enterprise, Second Floor, Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 949-680-3082 - Office 949-330-7691 - fax
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:14:27PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
If I am allowed to add one more thing: Please do not top-post. AkemiFor exactly this reason - you try and follow the twists in this email thread....
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
Allowed ? Heck, you are REQUIRED to do it.
- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
Ralph
Ralph,
Yes, please do!
By all means, feel free to encourage the list admin(s) to totally filter out HTML based emails to /dev/null
- rh
-- Abba Communications Internet PO Box 7175 Spokane, WA 99207-7175 www.abbacomm.net
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 4/11/2007 5:50 AM:
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
But there is no 50 line, 3000 word disclaimer saying that the e-mails are private, so it should be OK. ;-P
Scott Silva wrote:
BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 4/11/2007 5:50 AM:
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
But there is no 50 line, 3000 word disclaimer saying that the e-mails are private, so it should be OK. ;-P
Are you making fun of me? I have no control over it - it's added on the mailserver to all outgoing mail. I'm not a big fan of it, either.
At least I've learned to bottom-post with Outlook.
On 4/11/07, Bisbal, Prentice PBisbal@lexpharma.com wrote:
Are you making fun of me? I have no control over it - it's added on the mailserver to all outgoing mail. I'm not a big fan of it, either.
At least I've learned to bottom-post with Outlook.
(sigh)
I need this thread - it's a breath of fresh air when I don't choke from laughing at the next entry.
;^)
mhr
(cough, cough,...)
Bisbal, Prentice spake the following on 4/11/2007 10:09 AM:
Scott Silva wrote:
BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 4/11/2007 5:50 AM:
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails?
No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
But there is no 50 line, 3000 word disclaimer saying that the e-mails are private, so it should be OK. ;-P
Are you making fun of me? I have no control over it - it's added on the mailserver to all outgoing mail. I'm not a big fan of it, either.
At least I've learned to bottom-post with Outlook.
If you can force outlook to do what I see many people claim it can't, then you will not be made fun of by me!
PS: My bosses haven't thought of adding such fluff -- yet! And the president of our company is even a lawyer!
Scott Silva wrote:
PS: My bosses haven't thought of adding such fluff -- yet! And the president of our company is even a lawyer!
Probably EL Pres has decided the disclaimer doesn't constitute an enforceable contract. The idea of saying I can't read the disclaimer!!
John Summerfield spake the following on 4/11/2007 3:49 PM:
Scott Silva wrote:
PS: My bosses haven't thought of adding such fluff -- yet! And the president of our company is even a lawyer!
Probably EL Pres has decided the disclaimer doesn't constitute an enforceable contract. The idea of saying I can't read the disclaimer!!
My sentiments exactly! Just saying something is private, and then broadcasting it to a public forum would nullify it. I have no problem with a short signature stating;
The company of origin of the signature the physical address if they wish maybe other contact info such as phone and fax numbers and possibly the address to whom to complain if different from postmaster
That seems to be a proper company wide signature.
Scott Silva wrote:
Bisbal, Prentice spake the following on 4/11/2007 10:09 AM:
Scott Silva wrote:
BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 4/11/2007 5:50 AM:
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails? No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O
Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
Akemi
<snip sig stuff>
-- Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
But there is no 50 line, 3000 word disclaimer saying that the e-mails are private, so it should be OK. ;-P
Are you making fun of me? I have no control over it - it's added on the mailserver to all outgoing mail. I'm not a big fan of it, either.
At least I've learned to bottom-post with Outlook.
If you can force outlook to do what I see many people claim it can't, then you will not be made fun of by me!
PS: My bosses haven't thought of adding such fluff -- yet! And the president of our company is even a lawyer!
I didn't think it could be done with outlook either, then someone on this list pointed me to Outlook-Quotefix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/
Bisbal, Prentice spake the following on 4/12/2007 6:42 AM:
Scott Silva wrote:
Bisbal, Prentice spake the following on 4/11/2007 10:09 AM:
Scott Silva wrote:
BRUCE STANLEY spake the following on 4/11/2007 5:50 AM:
--- "William L. Maltby" CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 14:52 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:14:27 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: >> Am I allowed to start my rant about HTML mails? > No. Ranting on this mailing list is patented by Jim. :-O Nope! *COPYRIGHTED* His rantings are not under GPL!
> Akemi
> <snip sig stuff>
Bill
Then that means this list will have to be removed from the Web! Can't mix GPL rants with non-GPL rants! ;-)
But there is no 50 line, 3000 word disclaimer saying that the e-mails are private, so it should be OK. ;-P
Are you making fun of me? I have no control over it - it's added on the mailserver to all outgoing mail. I'm not a big fan of it, either.
At least I've learned to bottom-post with Outlook.
If you can force outlook to do what I see many people claim it can't, then you will not be made fun of by me!
PS: My bosses haven't thought of adding such fluff -- yet! And the president of our company is even a lawyer!
I didn't think it could be done with outlook either, then someone on this list pointed me to Outlook-Quotefix:
That's cheating! I used the smaller brother to that on outlook express a few years ago, and I liked it. But now I am on thunderbird, and haven't looked back. If thunderbird doesn't get some good and reliable calendaring within a year or so I might be forced to go to Outlook also.
Scott Silva wrote:
That's cheating! I used the smaller brother to that on outlook express a few years ago, and I liked it. But now I am on thunderbird, and haven't looked back. If thunderbird doesn't get some good and reliable calendaring within a year or so I might be forced to go to Outlook also.
I seem be doing well using TBird against a Cosmo/Scooby CalDAV calendar on the back end (www.osafoundation.org). But your needs may differ. -Don
Akemi Yagi wrote:
If I am allowed to add one more thing:
Please do not top-post.
And then Ralph wrote:
And edit your replies.
Ralph
then Robert wrote...
And send me kewl computer networking toys and money!
;->
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Peter Serwe wrote:
The list now needs a 'READ THIS FAQ BEFORE YOU POST' page somewhere..
That includes the most commonly asked questions like:
"When will CentOS 5 be released?"
Nah, you're not going to change human behaviour. Best learn to live with it. There will always be some little Johnny who will repeatedly ask, "Are were there yet Mummy?"
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:27:43AM -0400, Miark wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT), Scott wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
You disgusting pig. How DARE you ask such a question. Those developers are working as hard as they can, and all you can do is pressure them to take time out of their day to make up for your ignorance! Do you pay them to work? No! They don't answer to you--you got that?!
You're probably American.
Go to HELL!
P.S. Probably 'bout a week. But you didn't hear that from me. :-D
Please be reminded not to feed the developers.
Thank you for your cooperation.
:)
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- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
--- Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob@darkover.org wrote:
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:27:43AM -0400, Miark wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 06:37:36 -0400 (EDT), Scott wrote:
What is the overall timeline from CentOS 5 becoming public beta to becoming GA?
You disgusting pig. How DARE you ask such a question. Those developers are working as hard as they can, and all you can do is pressure them to take time out of their day to make up for your ignorance! Do you pay them to work? No! They don't answer to you--you got that?!
You're probably American.
Go to HELL!
P.S. Probably 'bout a week. But you didn't hear that from me. :-D
Please be reminded not to feed the developers.
Thank you for your cooperation.
:)
[]s
Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
Then what am I going to do with all those bags of peanuts? ;-)
BRUCE STANLEY uttered... Then what am I going to do with all those bags of peanuts? ;-)
Same thing we are going to do with all the bananas, sunflower seeds, coffee, and other caffeine drinks...
Whistle whistle, here boy... here boy... jump boy, jump, roll over, speak...
good boy! ...pat ...pat
;->
- rh
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Through the grapevine ... or some site I came accross :p take it with a grain of salt:
http://ultramookie.com/wayback/2007/03/29/centos-5-release-date/
-- L
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 10:30:11AM -0600, Lonny Selinger wrote:
Through the grapevine ... or some site I came accross :p take it with a grain of salt:
http://ultramookie.com/wayback/2007/03/29/centos-5-release-date/
That is the freaking channel topic ehehehehe
That is the "tentative" date, nothing more.
[]s
- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 10:30:11AM -0600, Lonny Selinger wrote:
Through the grapevine ... or some site I came accross :p take it with a grain of salt:
http://ultramookie.com/wayback/2007/03/29/centos-5-release-date/
That is the freaking channel topic ehehehehe
That is the "tentative" date, nothing more.
Hense the "take it with a grain of salt" ;-) I just keep checking the original site, when it's announced, It's released :-D
I wonder if this is one of the most anticipated releases or if it just feels like it is. Either way the mirrors should be getting hammered when it's out.
-- L
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 02:23:16 -0600 (CST), Lonny wrote:
I wonder if this is one of the most anticipated releases or if it just feels like it is. Either way the mirrors should be getting hammered when it's out.
If they have to pay for bandwidth, they might consider releasing it as only a torrent for the first few days or week.
Miark
R Lists06 spake the following on 4/5/2007 9:19 AM:
BRUCE STANLEY uttered... Then what am I going to do with all those bags of peanuts? ;-)
Same thing we are going to do with all the bananas, sunflower seeds, coffee, and other caffeine drinks...
I think the caffeinated drinks still need to flow in! ;-D
On 4/5/07, Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob@darkover.org wrote:
Please be reminded not to feed the developers.
s/developers/repackagers/
Please, let
.the authors have credit for development of Linux .the packagers have credit for packaging Linux distros and .the repackagers have credit for repackaging the distros.
If you .don't give the authors/developers credit, .the packagers won't have anything to package, .the repackagers won't have anything to repackage, .and we'll all be out of the best software there is.
JMHO. YOMV.
regards/ldv
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:48:20AM -0500, Larry Vaden wrote:
On 4/5/07, Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob@darkover.org wrote:
Please be reminded not to feed the developers.
s/developers/repackagers/
Please, let
.the authors have credit for development of Linux .the packagers have credit for packaging Linux distros and .the repackagers have credit for repackaging the distros.
If you .don't give the authors/developers credit, .the packagers won't have anything to package, .the repackagers won't have anything to repackage, .and we'll all be out of the best software there is.
Do you really think all that is involved in releasing CentOS is repackaging ? Geez ...
[]s
- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:48:20AM -0500, Larry Vaden wrote:
On 4/5/07, Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob@darkover.org wrote:
Please be reminded not to feed the developers.
s/developers/repackagers/
Please, let
.the authors have credit for development of Linux
"Linux" is just a kernel, we're referring to a distribution and they do receive credit...
.the packagers have credit for packaging Linux distros and .the repackagers have credit for repackaging the distros.
Just because one of the functions of releasing a 'distro' might include repackaging, does _not_ mean the people responsible for repackaging are _not_ developers (I'm sure there was a better way to reword that) ;-P
If you .don't give the authors/developers credit, .the packagers won't have anything to package, .the repackagers won't have anything to repackage, .and we'll all be out of the best software there is.
Do you really think all that is involved in releasing CentOS is repackaging ? Geez ...
Indeed :/ .... if that was the case I'd go grab the source RPMs and build my own distro, create my own bugzilla and my own wiki and track my own headaches, not going to happen. I think respect is given where due in regards to developers, packagers and re-packagers and in this case what you are referring to as re-packagers, wear more than one hat.
Just MHO, YOMV
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