Since 2004 or so, I have donated each year to the CentOS project, at the requested rate, for each of our servers. While I never really gave the matter any thought (fool that I am) I presumed that any organisation that solicited funds would, at a minimum, be incorporated, have a board of directors, duly appointed officers and hold all corporate identity elements such as internet domain names, brand trademarks and such as corporate property.
Evidently, my beliefs in this matter were sadly unfounded.
Now, I appreciate that whilst somewhat embarrassing, the immediate matter is easily resolved, turning as it does on retention or depreciation of the centos.org domain. Presumably those who donated bandwidth and servers to the CentOS.old project will in the main continue to support the CentOS.new project. Equally, unless some injury that has not yet come to light has been done to them, it seems likely that most of the current maintainers will move their loyalties and future technical contributions to CentOS.new.
However, having been bitten once, I feel that I must ask this more formal question. What steps, if any, have been taken to establish the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet happened?
Sincerely,
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:45 PM, James B. Byrnebyrnejb@harte-lyne.ca wrote:
However, having been bitten once, I feel that I must ask this more formal question. What steps, if any, have been taken to establish the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet happened?
Okay, I'm a mere CentOS desktop user (at this point) but I'm curious as to how *you've* been "bitten" here? While it's true that your donation money apparently did not go to the project as intended, it's also true that you've still received a solid and continuously updated OS (as paid for). So, even though it is regretful that the ability of the CentOS project to promote its distribution has been hampered -- I can't see where you've, personally, suffered any damage.
It seems to me the ones "bitten" here, are those who have donated so much of their own time developing and maintaining CentOS. But despite the handicap this situation has imposed on them, they are still providing a great distribution.
I do agree that, going forward, everything will become more "transparent" -- but I think that's the general goal and the reason for the open letter in the first place.
James B. Byrne wrote on Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:45:21 -0400 (EDT):
However, having been bitten once, I feel that I must ask this more formal question. What steps, if any, have been taken to establish the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet happened?
I think these are fair questions, but a bit premature. Give the team time to settle this, uhm, let's call it, mess. I'm sure once this matter is resolved the team will also give more information about the new structure and funding etc. Patience, folks! One thing at a time!
Kai
Kai Schaetzl napsal(a):
I think these are fair questions, but a bit premature. Give the team time to settle this, uhm, let's call it, mess. I'm sure once this matter is resolved the team will also give more information about the new structure and funding etc. Patience, folks! One thing at a time!
Kai
Well, let's hope that these fair questions are going to be answered. Project needs time to settle down now, so let's wait. The community can create "questions list" meanwhile. The project badly needs openness. David Hrbáč
On 07/31/2009 08:45 PM, James B. Byrne wrote:
What steps, if any, have been taken to establish the CentOS project as a separate legal entity distinct from any individual contributor? What protections are being put in place to prevent future misappropriations of donations and advertising revenue, even if it turns out that no such thing has as yet happened?
We will be addressing these issues in the next few weeks, the plan at this time is to not turn on the donations option or advertising anywhere on the websites till we have such process's in place.