Is this the standard behavior? Is there a way to only update the packages I installed without deselecting the ones I don't want?
Thanks.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mark Walker furface@omnicode.com wrote:
Is this the standard behavior? Is there a way to only update the packages I installed without deselecting the ones I don't want?
That depends on what you are updating and what you want. Could you be a little (no, a lot) more specific? What are you doing (exactly) and what is not working the way you think it should?
mhr
Here's what I'm doing. In the gui environment, gnome, there's a box in the upper right corner that reports about updates available every once in a while. I click on it and I get something called "Package Updater" that lists the packages that can be updated according to the server, I believe yum, it's querying. I'm not sure exactly what the Application name is, but that's what the title bar says. Sorry, I'm not an expert on gnome, so I'm having trouble tracking down what the actual app is. My guess is that it's Yumex or some close relative.
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed. For instance a package called "metacity," which apparently is a window manager. I understand there could be dependencies that need to be installed, but that is usually dealt with after yum downloads and queries the actual packages isn't it?
Is the main "Package Updater" designed to just give you the packages you installed or does it give you everything that's available from the server it's talking to?
Thanks.
MHR wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mark Walker furface@omnicode.com wrote:
Is this the standard behavior? Is there a way to only update the packages I installed without deselecting the ones I don't want?
That depends on what you are updating and what you want. Could you be a little (no, a lot) more specific? What are you doing (exactly) and what is not working the way you think it should?
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On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Mark Walker furface@omnicode.com wrote:
Here's what I'm doing. In the gui environment, gnome, there's a box in the upper right corner that reports about updates available every once in a while. I click on it and I get something called "Package Updater" that lists the packages that can be updated according to the server, I believe yum, it's querying. I'm not sure exactly what the Application name is, but that's what the title bar says. Sorry, I'm not an expert on gnome, so I'm having trouble tracking down what the actual app is. My guess is that it's Yumex or some close relative.
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed. For instance a package called "metacity," which apparently is a window manager. I understand there could be dependencies that need to be installed, but that is usually dealt with after yum downloads and queries the actual packages isn't it?
Is the main "Package Updater" designed to just give you the packages you installed or does it give you everything that's available from the server it's talking to?
I use that. It's called PUP and it is a front end to YUM. Today it had one (1) update available for my CentOS 5.2 Desktop. I use GNOME almost exclusively, but I also have KDE installed. I believe it only offers you the updates that are available for stuff you have installed on your box. There are many packages on your box (and mine!) that we do not recognize, but, they are installed.
Mark Walker wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:58:37 -0700:
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed.
Nevertheless, they probably *are* installed. There's a lot been installed during setup and because of dependencies. rpm -q packagename tells you more.
Kai
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Mark Walker wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:58:37 -0700:
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed.
Nevertheless, they probably *are* installed. There's a lot been installed during setup and because of dependencies. rpm -q packagename tells you more.
These can all tell you more:
rpm -qa | sort > installed_rpms
then edit that file ... this is everything installed on you machine.
You can also look at the file named: /root/install.log (that is what is installed by anaconda).
Just for the record, the absolutely minimal install you can do in centos-5 from the installer (if not using a special kickstart file) has 169 RPM packages and is 670MB (and this install has no real gui software at all) ... my current workstation has 921 RPM packages installed, and there are 2458 RPM packages in the Base CentOS-5 OS repository.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 07:26:12AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.0 package updater asking me to update more than I installed From: Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:26:12 -0500 Reply-To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Delivered-To: niftycluster@niftyegg.com Return-Path: centos-bounces@centos.org Delivered-To: centos@centos.org Message-ID: 488F0C64.3060807@centos.org Organization: The CentOS Project OpenPGP: id=6AC163B3 Sender: centos-bounces@centos.org
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Mark Walker wrote on Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:58:37 -0700:
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed.
Nevertheless, they probably *are* installed. There's a lot been installed during setup and because of dependencies. rpm -q packagename tells you more.
These can all tell you more:
rpm -qa | sort > installed_rpms
then edit that file ... this is everything installed on you machine.
or perhaps...
#! /bin/bash rpm -qa | while read it do echo "" echo "======================================" rpm -qi $it done > /tmp/listofstuffonmachine
You can also look at the file named: /root/install.log (that is what is installed by anaconda).
Just for the record, the absolutely minimal install you can do in centos-5 from the installer (if not using a special kickstart file) has 169 RPM packages and is 670MB (and this install has no real gui software at all) ... my current workstation has 921 RPM packages installed, and there are 2458 RPM packages in the Base CentOS-5 OS repository.
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Mark Walker wrote:
Here's what I'm doing. In the gui environment, gnome, there's a box in the upper right corner that reports about updates available every once in a while. I click on it and I get something called "Package Updater" that lists the packages that can be updated according to the server, I believe yum, it's querying. I'm not sure exactly what the Application name is, but that's what the title bar says. Sorry, I'm not an expert on gnome, so I'm having trouble tracking down what the actual app is. My guess is that it's Yumex or some close relative.
When I get the list of packages to be updated, there are things that I don't recognize having installed. For instance a package called "metacity," which apparently is a window manager. I understand there could be dependencies that need to be installed, but that is usually dealt with after yum downloads and queries the actual packages isn't it?
No, yum works with you current package list and metadata ... it will include any dependencies in the initial calculation. However, the output will show "Installed for Dependencies" in a separate section than the files it is going to update.
Is the main "Package Updater" designed to just give you the packages you installed or does it give you everything that's available from the server it's talking to?
Thanks.
MHR wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mark Walker furface@omnicode.com wrote:
Is this the standard behavior? Is there a way to only update the packages I installed without deselecting the ones I don't want?
yum only updates packages that are installed, it does not update packages that are not installed (well .. it will install dependencies if required)
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