Is there a way to use "Nouveau" (open source Nvidia) driver in CentOS 5 ?
"nv" seems to support only the lowest resolutions thru the dvi output (NV44 chip), and I don't like the idea of installing propiertary Nvidia drivers. This way I came to Nouveau.
I had a look at some Fedora rpms, but they needed something CentOS obviously doesn't have:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64
Regards, Timo
Timo Neuvonen wrote:
Is there a way to use "Nouveau" (open source Nvidia) driver in CentOS 5 ?
"nv" seems to support only the lowest resolutions thru the dvi output (NV44 chip), and I don't like the idea of installing propiertary Nvidia drivers. This way I came to Nouveau.
I had a look at some Fedora rpms, but they needed something CentOS obviously doesn't have:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64
you can't use RPMs built for a different OS distribution, you'd need to take the SRPM and rebuild/recompile it.
Is there a way to use "Nouveau" (open source Nvidia) driver in CentOS 5 ?
"nv" seems to support only the lowest resolutions thru the dvi output (NV44 chip), and I don't like the idea of installing propiertary Nvidia drivers. This way I came to Nouveau.
I had a look at some Fedora rpms, but they needed something CentOS obviously doesn't have:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64
you can't use RPMs built for a different OS distribution, you'd need to take the SRPM and rebuild/recompile it.
Aren't the dependencies still the same? I think they are explicitly spesified in the spec file of the source rpm?
Timo Neuvonen wrote:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_6
you can't use RPMs built for a different OS distribution, you'd need to take the SRPM and rebuild/recompile it.
Aren't the dependencies still the same? I think they are explicitly spesified in the spec file of the source rpm?
out of general curiosity, I did some poking around the Nouveau project wiki. In short order, I learned..
A) its still highly experimental and very incomplete.
B) it has three components, a 2D driver, a 3D driver, and a kernel driver. you need to build all three together for your target OS.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:13 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11-drv-nouveau for CentOS?
Timo Neuvonen wrote:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_6
you can't use RPMs built for a different OS distribution,
you'd need to
take the SRPM and rebuild/recompile it.
Aren't the dependencies still the same? I think they are explicitly spesified in the spec file of the source rpm?
out of general curiosity, I did some poking around the Nouveau project wiki. In short order, I learned..
A) its still highly experimental and very incomplete.
B) it has three components, a 2D driver, a 3D driver, and a kernel driver. you need to build all three together for your target OS.
Install the RPM Forge Repo. For CentOS 5 would be: http://packages.sw.be/rpmforge-release/rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.i386. rpm rpm -Uvh rpmforge-release-0.3.6-1.el5.rf.i386.rpm yum install dkms --enablerepo=*\rpmforge yum install nvidia-dkms --enablerepo=*\rpmforge Your xorg config file will get updated also, I have never heard of "nouveau".
JohnStanley
To OP in my previious reply the yum install should be:
yum install nvidia-x11-drv --enablepo=*\rpmforge
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Timo Neuvonen Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:54 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] xorg-x11-drv-nouveau for CentOS?
Is there a way to use "Nouveau" (open source Nvidia) driver in CentOS 5 ?
"nv" seems to support only the lowest resolutions thru the dvi output (NV44 chip), and I don't like the idea of installing propiertary Nvidia drivers. This way I came to Nouveau.
I had a look at some Fedora rpms, but they needed something CentOS obviously doesn't have:
# rpm -ivh xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64.rpm kernel-drm-nouveau = 10 is needed by xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-2.1.6-1.fc8.x86_64
Regards, Timo
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Timo Neuvonen timo-news@tee-en.net wrote:
Is there a way to use "Nouveau" (open source Nvidia) driver in CentOS 5 ?
"nv" seems to support only the lowest resolutions thru the dvi output (NV44 chip), and I don't like the idea of installing propiertary Nvidia drivers.
What's wrong with the nvidia drivers?
mhr
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:53:09 -0800 MHR wrote:
What's wrong with the nvidia drivers?
1. They can introduce problems that nobody can deal with in any way.
2. They could be discontinued by nvidia at any time.
3. They add another unnecessary "layer of complexity" to an already complex system.
There's the first three issues that I can think of -- I'm sure there are more but that should be enough to get you started.
Frank Cox wrote on Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:59:23 -0600:
There's the first three issues that I can think of
That applies for that "Nouveau" driver double as much - so, what?
Kai
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:31:16 +0100 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
There's the first three issues that I can think of
That applies for that "Nouveau" driver double as much
Since the Nouveau driver is open source software, you're wrong.
- so, what?
So I answered the question that he asked.
Ultimately, you're better off to use video chipsets with good open source drivers. Currently, that means Intel and (recently) ATI.
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 14:34 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
Ultimately, you're better off to use video chipsets with good open source drivers. Currently, that means Intel and (recently) ATI.
That depends upon one's purpose. If, for example, one wants to use mythtv, I would use an NVidia card with the closed-source driver. Primarily because for what I would need mythtv to do, it works *much* better than both Intel and ATI chipsets/drivers...
-I
Frank Cox wrote on Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:34:07 -0600:
Since the Nouveau driver is open source software, you're wrong.
Pardon? "it's open source so you are wrong". Somebody at home?
Kai
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:59 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11-drv-nouveau for CentOS?
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:53:09 -0800 MHR wrote:
What's wrong with the nvidia drivers?
- They can introduce problems that nobody can deal with in any way.
And the one the OP describes as Noveau isn't a problem?? They don't even know if the after the driver is compiled and installed from SOURCE if it WILL WORK! I be "Expletive" if I would put on on a test machine. Your aware I guess bad code can kill a piece of hardware?
- They could be discontinued by nvidia at any time.
For that fact the same goes for any Open Source Project there is. It could be here today and gone tomorrow so what's the point in that???
- They add another unnecessary "layer of complexity" to an
already complex system.
That depends on what one calls Complex??? Stable desktop Nvidia or the dkms versions.
There's the first three issues that I can think of -- I'm sure there are more but that should be enough to get you started.
It doesn't get me started good yet it's early...
JohnStanley
John wrote on Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:05:24 -0500:
It doesn't get me started good yet it's early...
Nevertheless, I see that you have now started to use normal quoting. Many thanks for that and good morning :-)
Kai
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Kai Schaetzl Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:07 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] xorg-x11-drv-nouveau for CentOS?
John wrote on Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:05:24 -0500:
It doesn't get me started good yet it's early...
Nevertheless, I see that you have now started to use normal quoting. Many thanks for that and good morning :-)
Kai
Don't hold your breath to long lol....
JohnStanley
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