I'm running CentOS 6 (6.5 iirc) on my wife's machine, which I've been updating pretty much every day. Today yum got 425 packages!
Somewhere a dam must have broken. Sometimes some of us don't appreciate how much work the developers do.
Strength to their arms, and many heartfelt thanks!
On 10/29/2014 10:02 AM, Beartooth wrote:
I'm running CentOS 6 (6.5 iirc) on my wife's machine, which I've been updating pretty much every day. Today yum got 425 packages!
Somewhere a dam must have broken. Sometimes some of us don't appreciate how much work the developers do.
Strength to their arms, and many heartfelt thanks!
+100
On Wed, October 29, 2014 9:06 am, Steve Clark wrote:
On 10/29/2014 10:02 AM, Beartooth wrote:
I'm running CentOS 6 (6.5 iirc) on my wife's machine, which I've been updating pretty much every day. Today yum got 425 packages!
Somewhere a dam must have broken. Sometimes some of us don't appreciate how much work the developers do.
Strength to their arms, and many heartfelt thanks!
+100
Me too. I was [mistakenly, apparently] always considering 5.[n+1], 6.[m+1] just re-spins, thus providing latest packages with _backported_ security patches/bugfixes, aimed at providing installation media that is not entail millions of updates. "Releases" with newer versions, drivers included in kernel shuffled, the new kernel (without any necessity in it) which causes hassle to reboot the box... This all effectively defeats the "Enterprise" portion of the name of the system, doesn't it?
Do not take it as me not being appreciative of the great job the distribution maintainers do. I'm just trying to give a view of us, "users" who have to deal with the consequences...
Valeri
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014, at 09:22, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, October 29, 2014 9:06 am, Steve Clark wrote:
On 10/29/2014 10:02 AM, Beartooth wrote:
I'm running CentOS 6 (6.5 iirc) on my wife's machine, which I've been updating pretty much every day. Today yum got 425 packages!
Somewhere a dam must have broken. Sometimes some of us don't appreciate how much work the developers do.
Strength to their arms, and many heartfelt thanks!
+100
Me too. I was [mistakenly, apparently] always considering 5.[n+1], 6.[m+1] just re-spins, thus providing latest packages with _backported_ security patches/bugfixes, aimed at providing installation media that is not entail millions of updates. "Releases" with newer versions, drivers included in kernel shuffled, the new kernel (without any necessity in it) which causes hassle to reboot the box... This all effectively defeats the "Enterprise" portion of the name of the system, doesn't it?
I had a customer with a Violin SAN and they couldn't update their RHEL/CentOS servers any higher than a certain point release not because the driver broke, but because the rest of the provided glue broke. I can't recall the fine details, but I'm pretty sure it was a major change to udev in the middle of a major release.
I don't understand the direction that has been taken. Anything that runs on 6.0 should run flawlessly on 6.6. Period.
On 29/10/14 15:32, Mark Felder wrote:
I don't understand the direction that has been taken. Anything that runs on 6.0 should run flawlessly on 6.6. Period.
I agree, and the way to help make that happen ( and to help document and track down breakage before this gets released ), is to submit tests to the t_functional suite : https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=sig-core/t_functional.git
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:22:35 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, October 29, 2014 9:06 am, Steve Clark wrote:
+100
Me too. I was [mistakenly, apparently] always considering 5.[n+1], 6.[m+1] just re-spins, thus providing latest packages with _backported_
security
patches/bugfixes, aimed at providing installation media that is not entail millions of updates. "Releases" with newer versions, drivers included in kernel shuffled, the new kernel (without any necessity in it) which causes hassle to reboot the box... This all effectively defeats the "Enterprise" portion of the name of the system, doesn't it?
Do not take it as me not being appreciative of the great job the distribution maintainers do. I'm just trying to give a view of us, "users" who have to deal with the consequences...
Looking back over the list of packages installed, I notice that most end in "el6," but there are some with "el6_6." Does that mean she's now actually running 6.6 rather than 6.5?
I've been wondering when it would be best to switch to CentOS 7. Is there something like fedup in Fedora to do it, or is a fresh install the only way?
On 10/29/2014 11:43 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:22:35 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Wed, October 29, 2014 9:06 am, Steve Clark wrote:
+100
Me too. I was [mistakenly, apparently] always considering 5.[n+1], 6.[m+1] just re-spins, thus providing latest packages with _backported_
security
patches/bugfixes, aimed at providing installation media that is not entail millions of updates. "Releases" with newer versions, drivers included in kernel shuffled, the new kernel (without any necessity in it) which causes hassle to reboot the box... This all effectively defeats the "Enterprise" portion of the name of the system, doesn't it?
Do not take it as me not being appreciative of the great job the distribution maintainers do. I'm just trying to give a view of us, "users" who have to deal with the consequences...
Looking back over the list of packages installed, I notice that most end in "el6," but there are some with "el6_6." Does that mean she's now actually running 6.6 rather than 6.5?
She is running CentOS 6 with all current updates. This currently equates to 6.6.
RHEL, and therefore CentOS, does not support maintaining a specific point release version. Updating any CentOS 6 system will now result in an update to 6.6. It is possible to prevent the 6.6 updates from being installed, but this will leave you with no further updates (security or otherwise).
I've been wondering when it would be best to switch to CentOS 7. Is there something like fedup in Fedora to do it, or is a fresh install the only way?
There is a method to upgrade (there was a recent thread about it in this group), but the recommended method is to install from scratch.
Once upon a time, Bowie Bailey Bowie_Bailey@BUC.com said:
RHEL, and therefore CentOS, does not support maintaining a specific point release version.
That's not true for RHEL. A subscription can be switched to an extended x.y.z release train (but that's a "you get what you pay for" kind of thing; that level of extended support is time consuming).
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