Is there any blog that has information on a potential RHEL 8 release date?
boost in 7 is now too old for some things, in addition to gcc. There are solutions in 7 to those issues but it's starting to feel like 6 felt shortly before 7 came out, so I wonder if it is getting near to time.
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
Hi,
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 12:20:22AM -0800, Alice Wonder wrote:
boost in 7 is now too old for some things, in addition to gcc. There are solutions in 7 to those issues but it's starting to feel like 6 felt shortly before 7 came out, so I wonder if it is getting near to time.
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
Take a look at
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/d35cef040ea408360c44950a2...
Given that, don't count on a release real soon. Furthermore, a RHEL release normally has a public beta period of at least 6 months or so. So, even if a public RHEL 8 beta would be released now (which is very unlikelely), CentOS 8 would not become available in 2017.
On 02/25/2017 12:20 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
I'd expect the release of RHEL 8 no less than 6 months after a beta was released, and I haven't heard anything about a new beta release. It's probably not going to happen real soon.
Having said that, I didn't realize until how close RHEL 7 is getting to the three-year mark. I wouldn't be surprised to see a beta 6-12 months from now, and a new release in 12-18 months.
On 02/25/2017 02:20 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
Is there any blog that has information on a potential RHEL 8 release date?
boost in 7 is now too old for some things, in addition to gcc. There are solutions in 7 to those issues but it's starting to feel like 6 felt shortly before 7 came out, so I wonder if it is getting near to time.
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
I have no real information on this either .. but one thing to think about is that RHEL-7 is much less conservative with 'rebases' than the older RHEL versions. (Case in point, major shifts in Gnome, KDE, Xorg, etc.)
With containers and software collections, and with more aggressive rebases in the Desktop space, I see the timelines becoming a little longer between major versions.
Also, as others have said, I see no alpha or beta for RHEL-8 anywhere. RHEL-5 does go EOL at the end of March 2017, so I guess a beta could happen soon(ish).
We use GCC 6 from SoftwareCollection 6 and build our own Boost libraries with static linking. The result binaries work on all C7 instances just fine without the need to install any extra packages. The binary size isn't bloated too much by statically linking Boost, because many Boost functions are header templates anyway (but your mileage may vary).
Not sure if you have other dependencies but we never feel the need to upgrade the whole OS just to get a newer GCC and Boost.
Yan
On Feb 25, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
On 02/25/2017 02:20 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: Is there any blog that has information on a potential RHEL 8 release date?
boost in 7 is now too old for some things, in addition to gcc. There are solutions in 7 to those issues but it's starting to feel like 6 felt shortly before 7 came out, so I wonder if it is getting near to time.
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
I have no real information on this either .. but one thing to think about is that RHEL-7 is much less conservative with 'rebases' than the older RHEL versions. (Case in point, major shifts in Gnome, KDE, Xorg, etc.)
With containers and software collections, and with more aggressive rebases in the Desktop space, I see the timelines becoming a little longer between major versions.
Also, as others have said, I see no alpha or beta for RHEL-8 anywhere. RHEL-5 does go EOL at the end of March 2017, so I guess a beta could happen soon(ish).
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Never been a fan of static linking. Exploit in a library and you have to rebuild everything that links against it.
That's one of the problems in the android world. Some library is found to be vulnerable, it gets fixed, but a lot of apps on the play store remain vulnerable simply because the vendor never submitted a rebuild.
That's also my beef with php composer, a lot of webapps lock the version of the library they use and composer happily grabs the crusty old version with its flaws.
But anyway, not suggesting a whole new OS just because of gcc and boost. It's a trend I've been seeing where recently, more and more apps refuse to build become one or more of the build dependencies is too old.
There's always a solution, but its nice when things just work.
On 02/25/2017 10:31 AM, Yan Li wrote:
We use GCC 6 from SoftwareCollection 6 and build our own Boost libraries with static linking. The result binaries work on all C7 instances just fine without the need to install any extra packages. The binary size isn't bloated too much by statically linking Boost, because many Boost functions are header templates anyway (but your mileage may vary).
Not sure if you have other dependencies but we never feel the need to upgrade the whole OS just to get a newer GCC and Boost.
Yan
On Feb 25, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
On 02/25/2017 02:20 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: Is there any blog that has information on a potential RHEL 8 release date?
boost in 7 is now too old for some things, in addition to gcc. There are solutions in 7 to those issues but it's starting to feel like 6 felt shortly before 7 came out, so I wonder if it is getting near to time.
I'm working on a major project bitcoin related and it would be frustrating to deploy a bunch of CentOS 7 virtual machines only to have 8 come out fairly soon afterwards.
I have no real information on this either .. but one thing to think about is that RHEL-7 is much less conservative with 'rebases' than the older RHEL versions. (Case in point, major shifts in Gnome, KDE, Xorg, etc.)
With containers and software collections, and with more aggressive rebases in the Desktop space, I see the timelines becoming a little longer between major versions.
Also, as others have said, I see no alpha or beta for RHEL-8 anywhere. RHEL-5 does go EOL at the end of March 2017, so I guess a beta could happen soon(ish).
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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