From: Todd Cary [mailto:todd@aristesoftware.com]
OK...now I go to the Intel section, and I am presented with these:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProducts.hmx?PID=MOTHERBOARDBUN DLES-INTEL&updepts=BUNDLE2&DNAME=Motherboard+Bundles%2D+By+MB
Are there some salient factors I should be looking at?
That all depends... What are you looking FOR?
Why are you replacing the motherboard? Are you also replacing the CPU? Memory?
Do you need IDE? SATA? RAID?
Do you have a video card, sound card, and NIC or do you want them built-in?
Do you want PCI-e?
Do you need USB? Firewire?
CentOS should be compatible with most motherboards out there. You may have to find drivers for an oddball video or sound chipset. On-board raid you are probably better off ignoring and using software raid instead. I usually look for boards from Asus or Abit. Intel boards are good as well, but usually don't have as many features and don't perform as well on the benchmarks.
You may want to check out Newegg.com. They've got good prices and selection and quite a few customer reviews on the popular products.
Bowie
Bowie -
Let me apologize for not putting some specs out there right up front; it is like saying I want a vehicle without stating that I haul tools and sometimes a few bags of cement!
This is for a "light weight server" that is connected to DSL and just affords my clients the advantage of downloading daily applications I maintain via FTP. Also, my "photo clients" view my "digital proof sheets"...very light weight stuff.
I need to replace my current board since it has "fake RAID" (Abit BE7-RAID) and Centos will not install. The disks are IDE. Once it is up, I just let it run and run...nothing special.
Todd
Bowie Bailey wrote:
From: Todd Cary [mailto:todd@aristesoftware.com]
OK...now I go to the Intel section, and I am presented with these:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProducts.hmx?PID=MOTHERBOARDBUN DLES-INTEL&updepts=BUNDLE2&DNAME=Motherboard+Bundles%2D+By+MB
Are there some salient factors I should be looking at?
That all depends... What are you looking FOR?
Why are you replacing the motherboard? Are you also replacing the CPU? Memory?
Do you need IDE? SATA? RAID?
Do you have a video card, sound card, and NIC or do you want them built-in?
Do you want PCI-e?
Do you need USB? Firewire?
CentOS should be compatible with most motherboards out there. You may have to find drivers for an oddball video or sound chipset. On-board raid you are probably better off ignoring and using software raid instead. I usually look for boards from Asus or Abit. Intel boards are good as well, but usually don't have as many features and don't perform as well on the benchmarks.
You may want to check out Newegg.com. They've got good prices and selection and quite a few customer reviews on the popular products.
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I need to replace my current board since it has "fake RAID" (Abit BE7-RAID) and Centos will not install. The disks are IDE. Once it is up, I just let it run and run...nothing special.
HighPoint 37x chipsets are supported by the dmraid driver...which is not available on CentOS apparently...
Feizhou feizhou@graffiti.net wrote:
HighPoint 37x chipsets are supported by the dmraid driver...which is not available on CentOS apparently...
A _lot_ of FRAID chipsets are getting more and more support c/o the LVM2-DM2 work, such as the DMRAID implementation. It's really just the DeviceMapper in the kernel handling the various vendor-eccentric disk organizations, while the RAID logic is handled by the kernel.
I mean, most of these FRAID controllers are merely "plain old disks" with some specially organized bits. The FRAID's OS driver then knows how to write them correctly, hence how DMRAID can do the same.
Unfortunately, the entire LVM2-DM2 stack is a race-condition nightmare. That's why it's not included in RHEL 4.
Unfortunately, the entire LVM2-DM2 stack is a race-condition nightmare. That's why it's not included in RHEL 4.
Hmm? But isn't LVM2 in CentOS4? I thought I was using LVM2 now... I must say I'm lost... Would someone care to explain?
Cheers, MaZe
Maciej ¯enczykowski maze@cela.pl wrote: > Unfortunately, the entire LVM2-DM2 stack is a race-condition
nightmare. That's why it's not included in RHEL 4.
Hmm? But isn't LVM2 in CentOS4? I thought I was using LVM2 now... I must say I'm lost... Would someone care to explain?
Cheers, MaZe _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I thought LVM2 and LVM-DM2 are two different packages and LVM2 is in centos?
Steven
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows or better'. So I installed Linux."
Maciej ¯enczykowski maze@cela.pl wrote:
Hmm? But isn't LVM2 in CentOS4? I thought I was using LVM2 now... I must say I'm lost... Would someone care to
explain?
The DeviceMapper2 for LVM2. LVM2 on its own is generally fine.
Todd Cary todd@aristesoftware.com wrote:
I need to replace my current board since it has "fake RAID" (Abit BE7-RAID) and Centos will not install. The disks are IDE. Once it is up, I just let it run and run...nothing special.
Haven't seen anything on-board with "true" hardware RAID. In more rare cases, you have to add a RAID logic board to use the on-board SATA or SCSI channels as such. The Intel ICH7-R and nVidia MCP-04 are absolutely attrocious at their "F"RAID-5 under Windows. Figure sub-15MBps write with even 4 x 7200rpm drives.
Now there does seem to be a whole slew of "pseudo-RAID" solutions coming out for not only PCI-X, but even PCIe. The HighPoint RocketRAID 2320 uses its HPT601 "XOR off-load engine" with a 4 or 8-port Marvell SATA logic+PHY IC. No DRAM buffer, no formal microcontroller, the benchmarks do well against even hardware RAID controllers -- although I'd like to see I/O interconnect load (hard to benchmark in Linux).
Todd Cary wrote:
This is for a "light weight server" that is connected to DSL and just affords my clients the advantage of downloading daily applications I maintain via FTP. Also, my "photo clients" view my "digital proof sheets"...very light weight stuff.
Go to SuperMicro and choose some cheaper server board. You'll get on-board video, on-board dual ehternet, and couple of PCI slots. Note that some of those don't have AGP slot (after all, they are server motherboards, not likely that anybody would plug fast and expensive 3D graphcis card into them). They tend to simply work, and work well.
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