The release notes for CentOS 6.4 state as follows:
With this release the ABI for the X.org video drivers changes, possibly resulting in a failing X-Session. If you are running 3rd party drivers - i.e. vBox addons, nVidia, ATI or ELRepo - you need to ensure a compatible driver is loaded.
I use flgrx from ELRepo. Does this mean that fglrx is now incompatible with CentOS?
Yves Bellefeuille
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Yves Bellefeuille yan@storm.ca wrote:
The release notes for CentOS 6.4 state as follows:
With this release the ABI for the X.org video drivers changes, possibly resulting in a failing X-Session. If you are running 3rd party drivers - i.e. vBox addons, nVidia, ATI or ELRepo - you need to ensure a compatible driver is loaded.
I use flgrx from ELRepo. Does this mean that fglrx is now incompatible with CentOS?
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
The CentOS 6.4 release notes also has this description in the 'Known Issues' section:
"The proprietary drivers for older AMD ( former ATI ) video cards, namely the 3xxx, 4xxx and 5xxx series ( both integrated in motherboards or standalone cards) are not compatible with the new version of the X server introduced in CentOS 6.4. "
More details are in this ELRepo bug report:
http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
Akemi
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report:
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report:
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report: http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Trevor
I've not been able to get a FirePro V7900 to work. This card does not use the regular ATI drivers, so the 13.1 test driver is useless.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Trevor Cooper tcooper@ucsd.edu wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report: http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Trevor _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 03/11/2013 05:58 PM, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report: http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Trevor
I would guess not because the problem is that the driver is not compatible with the kernel. The problem does not lie with the X server.
On 12/03/13 00:15, Mark LaPierre wrote:
On 03/11/2013 05:58 PM, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
> More details are in this ELRepo bug report:http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Trevor
I would guess not because the problem is that the driver is not compatible with the kernel. The problem does not lie with the X server.
No, the problem DOES lie with the X server. The new version of xorg in 6.4 uses ABI 13 and this ABI is NOT supported by the old AMD driver, nor the current AMD legacy driver supporting older hardware.
You can clearly see from the xorg log the kernel module loads and it's the xorg module that fails to load:
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx" (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
Please read the details in the cited bug:
On Monday 11 March 2013, Trevor Cooper tcooper@ucsd.edu wrote:
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
I can confirm that you can backtrack by enabling the proper vault repositories (and giving them the appropriate priorities), and then doing "yum remove xorg-x11-drv-modesetting", "yum downgrade xorg-x11*".
Yves
On 03/11/2013 07:33 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
On Monday 11 March 2013, Trevor Cooper tcooper@ucsd.edu wrote:
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
I can confirm that you can backtrack by enabling the proper vault repositories (and giving them the appropriate priorities), and then doing "yum remove xorg-x11-drv-modesetting", "yum downgrade xorg-x11*".
While I did not have xorg-x11-drv-modesetting installed (thus did not need to remove it). I can confirm this was able to get my xorg-x11 downgraded. For the less educated (myself included BEFORE this process) here is the command that I used to downgrade my xorg-x11*...
yum --enablerepo=C6.3-base --enablerepo=C6.3-updates downgrade xorg-x11*
Hope that helps others.
Trevor
On 11/03/13 21:58, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report: http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Yes that works fine, but you also need to exclude mesa* too for the upgrade. You're not the first to try this, at least one user I know has downgraded xorg*, mesa* after a failed update to get things working again so it's a confirmed option.
On 03/11/2013 10:14 PM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 11/03/13 21:58, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
More details are in this ELRepo bug report: http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355
So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Yes that works fine, but you also need to exclude mesa* too for the upgrade. You're not the first to try this, at least one user I know has downgraded xorg*, mesa* after a failed update to get things working again so it's a confirmed option.
That's interesting.
A downgrade of xorg-x11* worked for me WITHOUT a downgrade of mesa*.
fglrxinfo and fgl_glxgears work fine for me.
[root ~]# fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series OpenGL version string: 3.3.11631 Compatibility Profile Context
How would I know that upgrading mesa* had caused a problem? For example, glxinfo, glxgears (which depend on libGLU.so.1) work fine.
The update upgraded the following mesa packages...
mesa-dri-drivers x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGL x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGL-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGLU x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGLU-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libOSMesa x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libOSMesa-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6
...easy enough to downgrade now that I know how but do I need to?
Thanks,
Trevor
On 12/03/13 17:24, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/11/2013 10:14 PM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 11/03/13 21:58, Trevor Cooper wrote:
On 03/10/2013 03:45 AM, Ned Slider wrote:
On 10/03/13 01:24, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
Akemi Yagi wrote:
Depend on how "new" your card is. :)
HD 4800 series, RV770
> More details are in this ELRepo bug report:http://elrepo.org/bugs/view.php?id=355So I guess I should try enabling the testing repository. Thanks.
Yves Bellefeuille
Unfortunately older Radeon HD 4000, HD 3000, HD 2000 Series are NOT currently supported as the current AMD driver does NOT support the new version of Xorg in 6.4.
So your HD 4800 series is NOT supported.
Radeon HD 7000, HD 6000, HD 5000 Series ARE supported by the version 13.1 driver currently in the testing repo. I've had a couple of reports that this driver works so I'll move it to the main repo shortly. If you have supporting hardware I would recommend updating to this driver before performing the 6.4 update.
I've read the Known Issues in the C64 Release Notes.
Any thoughts on whether it's sufficient to 'exclude=xorg*' prior to updating from 6.3 to 6.4 to keep the X server compatible with AMD 4xxx series card/driver? Will I be the first to try this?
Yes that works fine, but you also need to exclude mesa* too for the upgrade. You're not the first to try this, at least one user I know has downgraded xorg*, mesa* after a failed update to get things working again so it's a confirmed option.
That's interesting.
A downgrade of xorg-x11* worked for me WITHOUT a downgrade of mesa*.
fglrxinfo and fgl_glxgears work fine for me.
[root ~]# fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series OpenGL version string: 3.3.11631 Compatibility Profile Context
How would I know that upgrading mesa* had caused a problem? For example, glxinfo, glxgears (which depend on libGLU.so.1) work fine.
The update upgraded the following mesa packages...
mesa-dri-drivers x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGL x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGL-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGLU x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libGLU-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libOSMesa x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6 mesa-libOSMesa-devel x86_64 7.11-5.el6 -> 9.0-0.7.el6
...easy enough to downgrade now that I know how but do I need to?
Thanks,
Trevor
I guess not, if it's not causing you an issue.
It might be that the new xorg needs the new mesa packages, but the old xog is equally happy to run with the new or old mesa packages. So apologies for the apparent misinformation :-)
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