Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
On 01/06/2012 05:17 PM, david wrote:
Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
I have great performance with KVM running windows guests using the virtio storage drivers. Below is how I do it (on clusters, normally, but should be easy to adapt for a single-machine host):
https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Provisioning_vm000...
On 01/06/2012 04:28 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 01/06/2012 05:17 PM, david wrote:
Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
I have great performance with KVM running windows guests using the virtio storage drivers. Below is how I do it (on clusters, normally, but should be easy to adapt for a single-machine host):
https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Provisioning_vm000...
I would second using KVM via virt-manager, shifting to the virtio driver for disk (you can also use the virtio net driver), and using spice (and spicy) instead of KVM to connect to the KVM machine. All sound works fine with spice, and the video is also quite nice. I did an article on the Wiki for spice:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Spice-libvirt
Here are articles on how to use the virtio disk and network devices:
http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/redhat-54-windows-virtio-drivers-part-2-blo...
http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/tip-how-setup-windows-guest-paravirtual-net...
On 01/06/2012 07:35 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 01/06/2012 04:28 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 01/06/2012 05:17 PM, david wrote:
Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
I have great performance with KVM running windows guests using the virtio storage drivers. Below is how I do it (on clusters, normally, but should be easy to adapt for a single-machine host):
https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Provisioning_vm000...
I would second using KVM via virt-manager, shifting to the virtio driver for disk (you can also use the virtio net driver), and using spice (and spicy) instead of KVM to connect to the KVM machine. All sound works fine with spice, and the video is also quite nice. I did an article on the Wiki for spice:
Should have said spice instead of VNC not KVM :D
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Spice-libvirt
Here are articles on how to use the virtio disk and network devices:
http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/redhat-54-windows-virtio-drivers-part-2-blo...
http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/tip-how-setup-windows-guest-paravirtual-net...
On 6 January 2012 22:28, Digimer linux@alteeve.com wrote:
On 01/06/2012 05:17 PM, david wrote:
Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
I have great performance with KVM running windows guests using the virtio storage drivers. Below is how I do it (on clusters, normally, but should be easy to adapt for a single-machine host):
https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Provisioning_vm000...
+1 for KVM/virt-manager/virtio. I need to look further into Spice, but now I use rdesktop which gives me file sharing and sound.
On 01/07/2012 06:05 AM, Lucian wrote:
+1 for KVM/virt-manager/virtio. I need to look further into Spice, but now I use rdesktop which gives me file sharing and sound.
I'm wondering about the difference between using rdesktop or spice to connect to a VM on your local machine (UI responsiveness, copy/paste functionality etc).
p.d. I haven't used KVM yet on my machine as I don't have the virt extensions on my CPU but I'm looking forward to it once I replace my box.
-- Jorge
2012/1/7 Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabregas@gmail.com:
On 01/07/2012 06:05 AM, Lucian wrote:
+1 for KVM/virt-manager/virtio. I need to look further into Spice, but now I use rdesktop which gives me file sharing and sound.
I'm wondering about the difference between using rdesktop or spice to connect to a VM on your local machine (UI responsiveness, copy/paste functionality etc).
p.d. I haven't used KVM yet on my machine as I don't have the virt extensions on my CPU but I'm looking forward to it once I replace my box.
Jorge,
Right now, at least with Windows vms, rdesktop is a way better way of accessing the vm - it's fast, it let's you share directories, clipboard sharing, sound etc. Spice will probably catch up with it fast though, I hope. Also I have noticed spice works better when there is additional software installed (sort of like vbox additions); in Centox you have spice-vdagent or something like that, but for Windows you need to build the driver yourself[1]. But we need to keep in mind that rdesktop and spice are not really in the same category. With spice you access the host machine, while with rdesktop you access the virtual machine directly. Spice wants to compete with vmware view and citrix xendesktop.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Lucian lucian@lastdot.org wrote:
Right now, at least with Windows vms, rdesktop is a way better way of accessing the vm - it's fast, it let's you share directories, clipboard sharing, sound etc. Spice will probably catch up with it fast though, I hope. Also I have noticed spice works better when there is additional software installed (sort of like vbox additions); in Centox you have spice-vdagent or something like that, but for Windows you need to build the driver yourself[1]. But we need to keep in mind that rdesktop and spice are not really in the same category. With spice you access the host machine, while with rdesktop you access the virtual machine directly. Spice wants to compete with vmware view and citrix xendesktop.
Different setup, but might have the same answer: I'm trying to use a VMware ESXi box to hold an assortment of images that could be fired up quickly as backups of working machines. One of them happens to be a windows box that needs audio for some alarms, but the host hardware doesn't have an audio device and one doesn't appear in the guest - and the win 2003 server terminal services doesn't seem to transport it for remote access like the desktop versions anyway. We do have a solution in that the ESXi console client can connect generic USB devices to the remote VM so attaching a USB audio device works. But, is there a better way to do remote audio in general, and specifically for a windows guest that doesn't see a real audio device?
Am 07.01.2012 19:39, schrieb Les Mikesell:
Different setup, but might have the same answer: I'm trying to use a VMware ESXi box to hold an assortment of images that could be fired up quickly as backups of working machines. One of them happens to be a windows box that needs audio for some alarms, but the host hardware doesn't have an audio device and one doesn't appear in the guest - and the win 2003 server terminal services doesn't seem to transport it for remote access like the desktop versions anyway. We do have a solution in that the ESXi console client can connect generic USB devices to the remote VM so attaching a USB audio device works. But, is there a better way to do remote audio in general, and specifically for a windows guest that doesn't see a real audio device?
The Windows terminal services do indeed transport audio to RDP clients, even if the hardware has no audio equipped. And that works if the Windows server is running as a VM on VMware ESXi. You may have to enable that functionality server side in the Windows policy settings. And the RDP client must be capable and configured to play sound locally.
Alexander
Les Mikesell writes:
is there a better way to do remote audio in general, and specifically for a windows guest that doesn't see a real audio device?
Lol, this is starting to smell like winbl0ws forums. Way off-topic.
Afaik you don't need any real audio device, then again I'm no windows expert. "By default audio redirection is disabled on server side. To enable it, run tsconfig.msc on server, double click the connection, go to “Client Settings” tab, uncheck the “Audio” checkbox."[1]
[1] - http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverTS/thread/a5e8a478...
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:28:06PM -0500, Digimer wrote:
On 01/06/2012 05:17 PM, david wrote:
Folks
I have a new laptop running Centos 6.2 64-bit. I'd like to put a virtual machine running Windows 7 (licensed), with full audio/video functions, and good response. Which virtual system would you recommend? I can think of KVM, or VirtualBox, or ...?
The "good response" requirement pretty much excludes a web-style video presentation.
Opinions solicited.
David Kurn
I have great performance with KVM running windows guests using the virtio storage drivers. Below is how I do it (on clusters, normally, but should be easy to adapt for a single-machine host):
https://alteeve.com/w/2-Node_Red_Hat_KVM_Cluster_Tutorial#Provisioning_vm000...
The virtio drivers are not really needed, the performance even without them is also pretty good.
best regards,
Florian La Roche
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