Hi all
Was curious how the beta is coming along. Was expecting to see it on monday, looking forward to playing over the holidays.
Thanks,
Jerry
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 06:59 -0500, Jerry Geis wrote:
Hi all
Was curious how the beta is coming along. Was expecting to see it on monday, looking forward to playing over the holidays.
We are making progress .. but not everything builds the way it should.
We are working out the kinks and working out how we are going to distribute, etc.
We need to make sure we get it right, so we are not rushing the process.
As to when it will be done ... that will be when it's done :P
(it could be a week, it could be longer ... we are doing many new things with CentOS 5 like Virtual machine installs, Clustering, etc. ... lots of new things to work out ... then there is the issue of artwork,etc.)
But, believe me, there is major effort by many people to get this done, including a centralized build system, etc.
Remember, it took 4 months to get the first C3 release out and 3 months to get the first c4 beta out after the el4 beta2 was released. But, you will get a "CentOS" quality product when we release it, beta or not.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Is there a howto about contributing artwork? I didn't know if there was a wiki page set up to where people could upload their artwork. It would be neat if the page listed every file that needed a new look with dimensions and file formats required. I have several art guys on Macs that could contribute if it was easy for them to upload - you know those Mac people!!
Once all the files are uploaded, then rpm packages could be "freshened" somehow with the winning set of artwork.
-eric wood
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... then there is the issue of artwork
Eric Wood wrote:
Is there a howto about contributing artwork? I didn't know if there was a wiki page set up to where people could upload their artwork. It would be neat if the page listed every file that needed a new look with dimensions and file formats required. I have several art guys on Macs that could contribute if it was easy for them to upload - you know those Mac people!!
wiki.centos.org/ArtWork is where we are going to try and consolidate most of the work. And no, we dont expect the Art guys to be doing the rpm'ising of the bits - at this time we just want to finalise a look and feel for the distro.
If you need a list of all graphics that need to be done, I can create that in no time. However, a short list of things to get done for a look & feel :
1. GDM login screen 2. Grub splash 3. Default Background 4. Gnome and KDE Splash screens 5. One Installer screen ( mostly that says, Welcome to CentOS-5 )
Once all the files are uploaded, then rpm packages could be "freshened" somehow with the winning set of artwork.
if we get multiple options and themes, we are quite happy to include them all - if someone is putting in the efforts, we have no problems in rewarding them by including the artwork.
However, only 1 can become the default.
- KB
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 14:36 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
wiki.centos.org/ArtWork is where we are going to try and consolidate most of the work. And no, we dont expect the Art guys to be doing the rpm'ising of the bits - at this time we just want to finalise a look and feel for the distro.
If you need a list of all graphics that need to be done, I can create that in no time. However, a short list of things to get done for a look & feel :
- GDM login screen
- Grub splash
- Default Background
- Gnome and KDE Splash screens
- One Installer screen ( mostly that says, Welcome to CentOS-5 )
Once all the files are uploaded, then rpm packages could be "freshened" somehow with the winning set of artwork.
if we get multiple options and themes, we are quite happy to include them all - if someone is putting in the efforts, we have no problems in rewarding them by including the artwork.
However, only 1 can become the default.
Is there any specific look that is desired? I assume that since this is a more business oriented distro the desire is for something more understated rather than something adventurous.
I see there is a new logo posted there and it still is "pink" for the text. Some other color would probably be better like blue, white or black.
Anyways if we had samples of the original artwork it might make it easier to make a drop-in replacement.
Regards, Paul Berger
Paul wrote:
Is there any specific look that is desired? I assume that since this is a more business oriented distro the desire is for something more understated rather than something adventurous.
Right, a clear and functional look, that does not age too much with time - since CentOS releases tend to hang around for a few years.
I see there is a new logo posted there and it still is "pink" for the text. Some other color would probably be better like blue, white or black.
Feel free to propose options, Create a login for yourself on the wiki, and email me offlist with the username, I'll add you to the ACL's allowed to post content
Anyways if we had samples of the original artwork it might make it easier to make a drop-in replacement.
Start with the CentOS-4.4 artwork, thats a good base to build up from.
- KB
Quoting Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com:
We are making progress .. but not everything builds the way it should.
Hmmm... I guess it is waaaay too early for CentOS5 centosplus kernel wishlist?
Well, can't resist. Here's my item. Suspend2 patches http://www.suspend2.net/
8-)
Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
Quoting Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com:
We are making progress .. but not everything builds the way it should.
Hmmm... I guess it is waaaay too early for CentOS5 centosplus kernel wishlist?
Well, can't resist. Here's my item. Suspend2 patches http://www.suspend2.net/
Do you know if they work with the present beta2 kernel ?
- KB
Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org:
Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
Quoting Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com:
We are making progress .. but not everything builds the way it should.
Hmmm... I guess it is waaaay too early for CentOS5 centosplus kernel wishlist?
Well, can't resist. Here's my item. Suspend2 patches http://www.suspend2.net/
Do you know if they work with the present beta2 kernel ?
Well, I saw FC6 kernels patched with suspend2 (for example http://mhensler.de/swsusp/). RHEL5beta2 is based on FC6 kernel, so I guess there's hope. I've attempted to apply original patch directly to FC6 kernel sources. However it seems it needs some cleanup (apperently parts but not all of suspend2 patches are already included in FC6, seems to be mostly documentation bits, but no actual code). I just wiped my RHEL5beta2 box, but if I install a new one I might try to merge changes from http://mhensler.de/swsusp/ into it.
Seems that suspend2 project is sponsored by Red Hat. Who knows, maybe we'll see it implemented by Red Hat too in near future.
Aleksandar Milivojevic napsal(a):
Well, can't resist. Here's my item. Suspend2 patches http://www.suspend2.net/
8-)
I'd like to add some wishes: CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TARPIT CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNLIMIT CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_IPP2P CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TIME CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_EXPIRE CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_GEOIP CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_NTH CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_QUOTA CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_EXPIRE CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_NTH l7-filter support ESFQ support IMQ support
I do have patches for current release and I'm prepared to help with C5 and 2.6.9-42.28. Some of them are going to be included by upstream, depends on final C5 kernel version. I assume 2.6.18 version. These patches are quite interesting, since move Centos from the middle of the enterprise onto the enterprise border. :o) See http://fs12.vsb.cz/hrb33/el4/hrb/testing/i386/RPMS/repodata/repoview/kernel-...
Regards, David
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 01:26 +0900, Shawn wrote:
HI,
But, you will get a "CentOS" quality product when we release it, beta or not.
I don't want to read too much into what you say so I assume this means that like RHEL5 betas, these betas are not upgradeable to a final release version.
Every effort will be made to make CentOS-5 final be able to be an upgrade target of CentOS-5 beta.
There may be some small individual issues (ie, a package is include as a test in the Beta, but upstream provider rolls back to an older package for release ... this has happened a couple times already in the past).
For those kinds of issues, if you upgrade from Beta to Final, you will have to manually revert the older packages back ...
We are obviously tied to the released Source Code, so there could be other issues, but it is one of our goals that the beta can be upgraded to the final.
(My main workstation is an upgraded CentOS-4.0 beta 1 all the way up at each release to now CentOS-4.4 :P)
Upgrades from CentOS-3 or 4 to CentOS-5 might be much harder ... and would most probably not be recommended, but possible.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
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