Yes, I know someone last week asked a similar question (Problem with ASUS P5VD2-X X SATA II) but the only answer I saw on that thread was the equivalent of "I've heard it's bad so I won't do it." Unfortunately, that doesn't help me much.
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but itself). The install routine for Centos, however, does not seem to recognise that the drives are there (or even that the VIA bridge exists via auto search); if I try to manually select it I'm told it found a VIA VT86c100A Rhine-II PCI (via-rhine). Setting to AHCI does not seem to have an effect. I was hoping to use software RAID, and so didn't want to enable RAID on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to either nudge the installation, or configure the hardware, to find the SATA drives so I can configure RAID? This is a NEW install on new drives, so it's not as if I've got an existing configuration I'm trying to augment.
Thanks in advance, -Don
Where does it hang at?
Don Levey wrote:
Yes, I know someone last week asked a similar question (Problem with ASUS P5VD2-X X SATA II) but the only answer I saw on that thread was the equivalent of "I've heard it's bad so I won't do it." Unfortunately, that doesn't help me much.
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but itself). The install routine for Centos, however, does not seem to recognise that the drives are there (or even that the VIA bridge exists via auto search); if I try to manually select it I'm told it found a VIA VT86c100A Rhine-II PCI (via-rhine). Setting to AHCI does not seem to have an effect. I was hoping to use software RAID, and so didn't want to enable RAID on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to either nudge the installation, or configure the hardware, to find the SATA drives so I can configure RAID? This is a NEW install on new drives, so it's not as if I've got an existing configuration I'm trying to augment.
Thanks in advance, -Don _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:51 -0500, William Warren wrote:
Where does it hang at?
Don Levey wrote:
Yes, I know someone last week asked a similar question (Problem with ASUS P5VD2-X X SATA II) but the only answer I saw on that thread was the equivalent of "I've heard it's bad so I won't do it." Unfortunately, that doesn't help me much.
Before the graphical installation routine, it tells me that it can't find a hard drive and gives me the opportunity to choose an interface manually. I either choose the one given (VT86c100A Rhine-II PCI (via-rhine)) or the only other VIA option from the list (I don't have the machine in front of me now, so I don't know specifically). Either way, it goes into the graphical install, I choose languages and type of installation, and that I want to manually partition the drives. I'm then told that there are no hard drives, and it kicks me out of the install.
From what little I can find via the web, it looks like no-one can get
this to work and I may need to buy a separate SATA controller (or two new hard drives for PATA).
-Don
We tried to get that board working for hours.
The major problem was that even after we used a cheap SATA PCI controller to get it up and running, the onboard Ethernet port was unstable.
I'd highly recommend putting this board on eBay and getting the Asus A8N-VM, which has the nVidia chipset that works. That's what we ended up doing.
Don Levey wrote:
Yes, I know someone last week asked a similar question (Problem with ASUS P5VD2-X X SATA II) but the only answer I saw on that thread was the equivalent of "I've heard it's bad so I won't do it." Unfortunately, that doesn't help me much.
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but itself). The install routine for Centos, however, does not seem to recognise that the drives are there (or even that the VIA bridge exists via auto search); if I try to manually select it I'm told it found a VIA VT86c100A Rhine-II PCI (via-rhine). Setting to AHCI does not seem to have an effect. I was hoping to use software RAID, and so didn't want to enable RAID on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to either nudge the installation, or configure the hardware, to find the SATA drives so I can configure RAID? This is a NEW install on new drives, so it's not as if I've got an existing configuration I'm trying to augment.
Thanks in advance, -Don _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Don Levey wrote:
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but
you need to set the drives to work at only sata-1 ( 1.5Gb/sec ) mode. Once you do that the onboard via_sata stuff works fine. ( well, fine as in in 1.5gb/sec mode - but it works )
- KB
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 12:45 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Don Levey wrote:
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but
you need to set the drives to work at only sata-1 ( 1.5Gb/sec ) mode. Once you do that the onboard via_sata stuff works fine. ( well, fine as in in 1.5gb/sec mode - but it works )
- KB
Ah, OK - thanks! I'll try that this afternoon. I'm assuming I don't need to make a corresponding change on the motherboard itself? -Don
Don Levey wrote:
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but
you need to set the drives to work at only sata-1 ( 1.5Gb/sec ) mode.
Ah, OK - thanks! I'll try that this afternoon. I'm assuming I don't need to make a corresponding change on the motherboard itself?
no, it should just work fine, you dont even need to set the mobo to emulate ide mode or use ahci, the via_sata drivers included in the kernel work fine.
- KB
Sadly, this did not work. I set the jumpers on the drives to SATA 1 (1.5GB) but the installation routine did exactly the same thing as before (did not automatically load the south bridge SATA controller, I selected via_sata manually, then when it came time to partition I was told there were no drives in the system). I did notice in the initial messages that flash by during the CD init that it said "unknown via southbridge". The specs say this is a VIA8251; I'm assuming that if I could get ahold of an install DVD with the appropriate kernel module included that this would be easier? I didn't want to drop another $90 (especially for a new A8N-VM with capabilities I don't need for a small server) but it's looking more and more like I need to do it. -Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:00 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not find SATAdrives
Don Levey wrote:
The BIOS does indeed recognise my two SATA hard drives, and I've got the BIOS set to "IDE" (which disables "hardware" RAID but not the SATA but
you need to set the drives to work at only sata-1 ( 1.5Gb/sec ) mode.
Ah, OK - thanks! I'll try that this afternoon. I'm assuming I don't need to make a corresponding change on the motherboard itself?
no, it should just work fine, you dont even need to set the mobo to emulate ide mode or use ahci, the via_sata drivers included in the kernel work fine.
Don Levey wrote:
Sadly, this did not work. I set the jumpers on the drives to SATA 1 (1.5GB) but the installation routine did exactly the same thing as before (did not automatically load the south bridge SATA controller, I selected via_sata manually, then when it came time to partition I was told there were no drives in the system).
What version of centos are you trying to install ? I am sitting here in front of a A8V, and its working fine. I suggest you revert to factory defaults on the bios, enable the promise sata interface, try centos-4.4 ( btw, i run x86_64 on there, but that should not make a diff, the i386 should work fine as well )
- KB
I'm trying CentOS 4.4; I'll try reverting to factory BIOS and using promise_sata. Thanks! -Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:03 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does notfind SATAdrives
Don Levey wrote:
Sadly, this did not work. I set the jumpers on the drives to SATA 1
(1.5GB)
but the installation routine did exactly the same thing as before (did not automatically load the south bridge SATA controller, I selected via_sata manually, then when it came time to partition I was told there were no drives in the system).
What version of centos are you trying to install ? I am sitting here in front of a A8V, and its working fine. I suggest you revert to factory defaults on the bios, enable the promise sata interface, try centos-4.4 ( btw, i run x86_64 on there, but that should not make a diff, the i386 should work fine as well )
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata (and promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Don Levey Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:21 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does notfind SATAdrives
I'm trying CentOS 4.4; I'll try reverting to factory BIOS and using promise_sata. Thanks! -Don
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:37 -0500, Don Levey wrote:
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata (and promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
One last thing ... try a bios upgrade to the latest from the manufacturer
Already at version 401 (the latest from ASUS). They *do* offer a VIA SATA driver for Linux, and that may help if I can get it on the install DVD.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Johnny Hughes Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:52 AM To: CentOS ML Subject: RE: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not find SATAdrives
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:37 -0500, Don Levey wrote:
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata
(and
promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
One last thing ... try a bios upgrade to the latest from the manufacturer
On 17/01/07, Don Levey centos@the-leveys.us wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:37 -0500, Don Levey wrote:
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata
(and
promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
One last thing ... try a bios upgrade to the latest from the manufacturer
Already at version 401 (the latest from ASUS). They *do* offer a VIA SATA driver for Linux, and that may help if I can get it on the install DVD.
Will FC3 or later install on it? It's possible (though no doubt a bunch of work) to hack together an installer with extended/custom device support in its initrd. Of course then you'd need to ensure the installed kernel had similar extended functionality/updated hardware support.
You could always try the latest FC variant until CentOS 5 is available then try rebuilding the server with that? And with that in mind you could layout your partitions accordingly so any custom data is still local even after a reinstall.
Will.
That may be the way to go. I'm working on getting a DVD for FC6 x86_64 so we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, this link: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html has *some* (but not a lot) of info on the VIA8251 in particular; there is a wealth of info on SATA on Linux in general. In short, it presents three possible workarounds:
1. Switch the motherboard BIOS back to "legacy ATA mode" (parallel ATA = PATA). Complete a Linux installation. Fetch or build a kernel with support for your chipset. Switch the BIOS setting back. (Potential catch: It's claimed that Dell Optiplex GX270 and Dell Precision Workstation 360 desktop units, using Intel ICH5 SATA-I chipsets, don't support switching to legacy ATA mode. This might be true of some others.)
2. Rebuild your installer using kernel 2.4.27 or later, which includes libata, desirable since it adds many new chipsets and gives a (potential, subject to physical read limits, etc.) ~10M/s speed boost to some others compared to the quite slow 2.4.x drivers/ide set.
3. Temporarily add a regular PATA drive to your system. Install Linux onto that. Fetch or build a kernel with support for your chipset. Migrate your system to the SATA drives.
The first doesn't seem to be an option in terms of switching the SATA interfaces to PATA mode. The drives themselves are SATA, of course, so I can't just plug them into the PATA interfaces on the boards.
The second is a little outdated, since CentOS uses a 2.6 kernel and seems to have SATA/libata capability.
The third is a possiblity, if I can find a kernel within the CentOS/RedHat umbrella that will support the chipset. I know I can build or find one on my own, but don't want to have to rebuild each time a new kernel/enhancement/vulnerability comes out.
-Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Will McDonald Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:30 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not findSATAdrives
On 17/01/07, Don Levey centos@the-leveys.us wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:37 -0500, Don Levey wrote:
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata
(and
promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
One last thing ... try a bios upgrade to the latest from the manufacturer
Already at version 401 (the latest from ASUS). They *do* offer a VIA SATA driver for Linux, and that may help if I can get it on the install DVD.
Will FC3 or later install on it? It's possible (though no doubt a bunch of work) to hack together an installer with extended/custom device support in its initrd. Of course then you'd need to ensure the installed kernel had similar extended functionality/updated hardware support.
You could always try the latest FC variant until CentOS 5 is available then try rebuilding the server with that? And with that in mind you could layout your partitions accordingly so any custom data is still local even after a reinstall.
The first point is the bios will emulate PATA mode and let the SATA drives stay connected to the SATA ports. See if that is on option on your motherboard.
Don Levey wrote:
That may be the way to go. I'm working on getting a DVD for FC6 x86_64 so we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, this link: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html has *some* (but not a lot) of info on the VIA8251 in particular; there is a wealth of info on SATA on Linux in general. In short, it presents three possible workarounds:
- Switch the motherboard BIOS back to "legacy ATA mode" (parallel ATA =
PATA). Complete a Linux installation. Fetch or build a kernel with support for your chipset. Switch the BIOS setting back. (Potential catch: It's claimed that Dell Optiplex GX270 and Dell Precision Workstation 360 desktop units, using Intel ICH5 SATA-I chipsets, don't support switching to legacy ATA mode. This might be true of some others.)
- Rebuild your installer using kernel 2.4.27 or later, which includes
libata, desirable since it adds many new chipsets and gives a (potential, subject to physical read limits, etc.) ~10M/s speed boost to some others compared to the quite slow 2.4.x drivers/ide set.
- Temporarily add a regular PATA drive to your system. Install Linux onto
that. Fetch or build a kernel with support for your chipset. Migrate your system to the SATA drives.
The first doesn't seem to be an option in terms of switching the SATA interfaces to PATA mode. The drives themselves are SATA, of course, so I can't just plug them into the PATA interfaces on the boards.
The second is a little outdated, since CentOS uses a 2.6 kernel and seems to have SATA/libata capability.
The third is a possiblity, if I can find a kernel within the CentOS/RedHat umbrella that will support the chipset. I know I can build or find one on my own, but don't want to have to rebuild each time a new kernel/enhancement/vulnerability comes out.
-Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Will McDonald Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:30 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not findSATAdrives
On 17/01/07, Don Levey centos@the-leveys.us wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:37 -0500, Don Levey wrote:
No go, unfortunately. Even under factory settings, using promise_sata
(and
promise_sx4, for that matter), CentOS 4.4 won't install. Time for a new board, I guess. -Don
One last thing ... try a bios upgrade to the latest from the manufacturer
Already at version 401 (the latest from ASUS). They *do* offer a VIA SATA driver for Linux, and that may help if I can get it on the install DVD.
Will FC3 or later install on it? It's possible (though no doubt a bunch of work) to hack together an installer with extended/custom device support in its initrd. Of course then you'd need to ensure the installed kernel had similar extended functionality/updated hardware support.
You could always try the latest FC variant until CentOS 5 is available then try rebuilding the server with that? And with that in mind you could layout your partitions accordingly so any custom data is still local even after a reinstall. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
The BIOS itself doesn't say anything about Legacy (P)ATA mode. It does, though, have an IDE mode in addition to AHCI and RAID. I've tried the IDE, and the POST shows the hard drives as IDE controller 3/4 but install/Anaconda doesn't pick them up.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of William Warren Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:54 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not findSATAdrives
The first point is the bios will emulate PATA mode and let the SATA drives stay connected to the SATA ports. See if that is on option on your motherboard.
Don Levey wrote:
That may be the way to go. I'm working on getting a DVD for FC6 x86_64 so we'll see how that goes. In the meantime, this link: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html has *some* (but not a lot) of info on the VIA8251 in particular; there is
a
wealth of info on SATA on Linux in general. In short, it presents three possible workarounds:
- Switch the motherboard BIOS back to "legacy ATA mode" (parallel ATA =
PATA). Complete a Linux installation. Fetch or build a kernel with support for your chipset. Switch the BIOS setting back. (Potential catch: It's claimed that Dell Optiplex GX270 and Dell Precision Workstation 360
desktop
units, using Intel ICH5 SATA-I chipsets, don't support switching to legacy ATA mode. This might be true of some others.)
FC6 seems to find the drives correctly, so I'll at least partition and set up the RAID now. This gives me hope for CentOS 5; I can redo things then if necessary. Thanks! -Don
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Will McDonald Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:30 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 4.4 install on ASUS A8V-VM does not findSATAdrives
You could always try the latest FC variant until CentOS 5 is available then try rebuilding the server with that? And with that in mind you could layout your partitions accordingly so any custom data is still local even after a reinstall.
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