Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I was browsing through the dovecot wiki, and I saw some pictures which seemed to be from a dovecot GUI, but I could not find the name of this program.
Alternatively, can I simply create the folder I want on the CentOS dovecot server?
On 3 March 2012 12:15, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I was browsing through the dovecot wiki, and I saw some pictures which seemed to be from a dovecot GUI, but I could not find the name of this program.
Alternatively, can I simply create the folder I want on the CentOS dovecot server?
Good thing you linked that image so we know what you're talking about.
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
http://dovecot.org/mailinglists.html
Regards
On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I was browsing through the dovecot wiki, and I saw some pictures which seemed to be from a dovecot GUI, but I could not find the name of this program.
Alternatively, can I simply create the folder I want on the CentOS dovecot server?
-- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin
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Mailinglist wrote:
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
Maybe when giving advice you should desist from top-posting.
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I was browsing through the dovecot wiki, and I saw some pictures which seemed to be from a dovecot GUI, but I could not find the name of this program.
Alternatively, can I simply create the folder I want on the CentOS dovecot server?
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
I'll try that. However, what I was asking was if there is a CentOS-6 application that provides a GUI interface to dovecot, so it seemed to me appropriate to ask on the CentOS mailing list.
On 3 March 2012 15:40, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Mailinglist wrote:
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
Maybe when giving advice you should desist from top-posting.
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I was browsing through the dovecot wiki, and I saw some pictures which seemed to be from a dovecot GUI, but I could not find the name of this program.
Alternatively, can I simply create the folder I want on the CentOS dovecot server?
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
I'll try that. However, what I was asking was if there is a CentOS-6 application that provides a GUI interface to dovecot, so it seemed to me appropriate to ask on the CentOS mailing list.
Webmin - it's not an "Centos-6 application" though, just one of the many applications that can run on Centos.
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
You should email the dovecot mailing list.
I'll try that. However, what I was asking was if there is a CentOS-6 application that provides a GUI interface to dovecot, so it seemed to me appropriate to ask on the CentOS mailing list.
This sounds like something controlled by the dovecot configuration if it is even possible. A tool like webmin might provide GUI access to the configuration settings but you would still need to understand the configuration options well enough to know what you need to change.
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 03:40:38PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Maybe when giving advice you should desist from top-posting.
Likewise if you're going to reply to a mailing list post you could desist from over-quoting extraneous text.
John
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 03:40:38PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Maybe when giving advice you should desist from top-posting.
Likewise if you're going to reply to a mailing list post you could desist from over-quoting extraneous text.
You are being ridiculous. I just looked at the email in question, and I repeated just 13 lines (3 of them blank) from my previous post, every one of which was directly relevant to the question I was asking.
On 03/03/12 4:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
Dovecot is a pop and imap server for email clients. are you asking if there is a web mail program that can use imap or pop ?
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:25 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
On 03/03/12 4:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
Dovecot is a pop and imap server for email clients. Â are you asking if there is a web mail program that can use imap or pop ?
If I understood the question, he wants his imap clients to be able to create folders at the same level as the inbox, not under it. Which is probably a server-side storage or namespace option.
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
If I understood the  question, he wants his imap clients to be able to create folders at the same level as the inbox, not under it.  Which is probably a server-side storage or namespace option.
What I have on my Dovecot server config is:
namespace { inbox = yes location = prefix = separator = . type = private }
OP has probably "prefix = INBOX." which forces all client apps to create subfolders underneath/within the inbox instead of adjacent to it.
Regards, Peter
Peter Peltonen wrote:
If I understood the question, he wants his imap clients to be able to create folders at the same level as the inbox, not under it.
Yes, that was my question.
Which is probably a server-side storage or namespace option.
What I have on my Dovecot server config is:
namespace { inbox = yes location = prefix = separator = . type = private }
OP has probably "prefix = INBOX." which forces all client apps to create subfolders underneath/within the inbox instead of adjacent to it.
Thanks very much for your response. It seems to me very likely that the problem does lie here.
However, I am running CentOS-6.2, and now /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf does not seem to contain any reference to namespace, as it did in CentOS-5.
There is now a directory /etc/dovecot/conf.d , and the only mentions of namespace are in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf .
The section on namespaces is commented out by default, and I have left it like this. I must admit I do not understand the relevant section. If I remove the commented advice, it reads: ------------------------------------ #namespace { #type = private #separator = #prefix = #location = #inbox = no #hidden = no #list = yes #subscriptions = yes #} ------------------------------------ Following your advice, I've changed this to ------------------------------------ namespace { type = private separator = prefix = location = inbox = yes hidden = no list = yes subscriptions = yes } ------------------------------------ and run "sudo service dovecot restart" on my server.
Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to have had any effect; KMail is still unable to add a top-level folder.
Hi,
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
However, I am running CentOS-6.2, and now /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf does not seem to contain any reference to namespace, as it did in CentOS-5.
There is now a directory /etc/dovecot/conf.d , and the only mentions of namespace are in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf .
I have a bit exotic Dovecot setup myself, but this is what I've done:
1. I have not touched the files in conf.d
2. In dovecot.conf I just have:
!include_try local.conf
3. And in local.conf I have defined:
- auth_cache_size - auth_verbose - disable_plaintext_auth - auth_mechanisms - auth_username_format - first_valid_uid - log_path - login_greeting - namespace - passdb - plugin/quota - plugin/quota - protocols - protocol imap - service imap-login - ssl_cert - ssl_key - userdb
You could try a similar setup? I am using also qmail+vpopmail so you probably do not need to define all the things I have defined.
If you cannot get it working I would recommend joining the Dovecot mailing list where you certainly will find answers to all your questions as the developers of the software are there.
Best, Peter
Peter Peltonen wrote:
I have a bit exotic Dovecot setup myself, but this is what I've done:
I have not touched the files in conf.d
In dovecot.conf I just have:
!include_try local.conf
- And in local.conf I have defined:
- auth_cache_size
- auth_verbose
- disable_plaintext_auth
- auth_mechanisms
- auth_username_format
- first_valid_uid
- log_path
- login_greeting
- namespace
- passdb
- plugin/quota
- plugin/quota
- protocols
- protocol imap
- service imap-login
- ssl_cert
- ssl_key
- userdb
Thanks very much for your response. I wonder if you would mind sending me your local.conf , as I am not clear how you define some (in fact most) of these variables?
If you cannot get it working I would recommend joining the Dovecot mailing list where you certainly will find answers to all your questions as the developers of the software are there.
Yes, I am sure that is the best route.
I asked first on the CentOS mailing list because I could create top-level folders under CentOS-5, But have been unable to under CentOS-6. (Actually, it could have been a more recent change to kdepim, as I didn't try to create a new top-level folder until recently.)
On Saturday 03 Mar 2012 12:15:29 Timothy Murphy wrote:
Is there a web-interface to dovecot under CentOS-6?
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I use KMail as client for Dovecot IMAP and I can create top level folders no problem. Just right click on the server entry in the folder list (i.e. parent of the inbox folder) and choose "New subfolder".
Do you not get that option or do you get an error when you try it?
Fedora 6 is kind of old, but IIRC this also worked on KDE 3.
Michael Gliwinski wrote:
I want to create a top-level folder (ie at the same level as Inbox) but this doesn't seem to be possible from KMail running on a remote Fedora-6 laptop.
I use KMail as client for Dovecot IMAP and I can create top level folders no problem. Just right click on the server entry in the folder list (i.e. parent of the inbox folder) and choose "New subfolder". Do you not get that option or do you get an error when you try it?
That doesn't work for me. In my case the parent of Inbox is "grover", the name of the dovecot server (running CentOS-6.2). If I right-click on grover, I am offered a menu of options, but these do not include "New subfolder" (even greyed out). The ones that are not greyed out are: Update folder and its subfolders [I tried that] Find Messages Copy Folder to Archive Folder Assign Shortcut Folder Properties Manage Local Subscriptions
If instead I left-click on File in the top bar (while highlighting "grover") Add Folder is greyed out. If I hightlight Inbox, for example, File=>Add Folder is not greyed out, but if I add a folder here it is a sub-folder of Inbox.
Fedora 6 is kind of old, but IIRC this also worked on KDE 3.
Sorry, that was a typo for Fedora-16. ------------------------ [tim@blanche ~]$ kmail --version Qt: 4.8.0 KDE Development Platform: 4.8.00 (4.8.0 KMail: 4.8.0 ------------------------
That doesn't work for me. In my case the parent of Inbox is "grover", the name of the dovecot server (running CentOS-6.2). If I right-click on grover, I am offered a menu of options, but these do not include "New subfolder" (even greyed out). The ones that are not greyed out are: Update folder and its subfolders [I tried that] Find Messages Copy Folder to Archive Folder Assign Shortcut Folder Properties Manage Local Subscriptions
If instead I left-click on File in the top bar (while highlighting "grover") Add Folder is greyed out. If I hightlight Inbox, for example, File=>Add Folder is not greyed out, but if I add a folder here it is a sub-folder of Inbox.
Fedora 6 is kind of old, but IIRC this also worked on KDE 3.
Sorry, that was a typo for Fedora-16.
[tim@blanche ~]$ kmail --version Qt: 4.8.0 KDE Development Platform: 4.8.00 (4.8.0 KMail: 4.8.0
I would check the ownership and permissions of the mail directories and files. You might also try a different mail client. Next I would go through your config file and using the documentation try to understand what the various configuration options mean. I have a very simple config file which does not define the namespace parameters and I am able to create top level subfolders using thunderbird (this is under CentOS 5). If your config file is not too large, simply posting it might be helpful, but as some have pointed out, you might do better to do this on the dovecot mailing list.
If you own the mail server, you could always go to the top level folder for your username and "mkdir .foldername" and then use chown,chmod to setup the permissions correctly and see if you can subscribe to that folder.
From the description of your problem, we have no way of knowing if there
is a problem with dovecot or with your mail client.
There are also a handful of packages out there that you could install on a fresh CentOS system that will give you a complete running mailsystem with virtual domains, a pop/imap server and a management GUI. One that I happen to like is http://vpostmaster.com/ http://www.tummy.com/Products/vpostmaster/ , but don't install it on a system with an already installed half working mail system. If you can do a fresh install of CentOS in a virtual machine, vpostmaster should come right up, simply by installing the package and it will have a working dovecot/postfix config. You will have to go into the GUI and setup your mail domain. Vpostmaster is supposed to work under CentOS 6.
Nataraj
Nataraj wrote:
I would check the ownership and permissions of the mail directories and files. You might also try a different mail client.
Thanks for your response. All the dovecot mail directories and files are in ~/Maildir , and are owned by me, with all directories having 700 permission, and all files having 664 permssion.
Next I would go through your config file and using the documentation try to understand what the various configuration options mean. I have a very simple config file which does not define the namespace parameters and I am able to create top level subfolders using thunderbird (this is under CentOS 5).
I should have said that this worked fine for me under CentOS-5; it is only since going over to CentOS-6 that I have had this problem.
If your config file is not too large, simply posting it might be helpful, but as some have pointed out, you might do better to do this on the dovecot mailing list.
Under CentOS-6 /etc/dovecot/dovectot.conf is rather small. Everything significant seems to have been moved to /etc/dovecot/conf.d/ .
If you own the mail server, you could always go to the top level folder for your username and "mkdir .foldername" and then use chown,chmod to setup the permissions correctly and see if you can subscribe to that folder.
I did wonder about this, but was not sure of the consequences, and since I have had several problems not of my making with KMail2 I didn't want to add any of my own.
On 03/05/2012 05:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Nataraj wrote:
I would check the ownership and permissions of the mail directories and files. You might also try a different mail client.
Thanks for your response. All the dovecot mail directories and files are in ~/Maildir , and are owned by me, with all directories having 700 permission, and all files having 664 permssion.
Well that could be your problem. What user and group is dovecot running under? In order for Dovecot to create a directory it has to have write access to the parent directory. Using the protection that you have set, the only way dovecot would be able to create directories is running as root or running under your private userid. For security reasons I wouldn't run dovecot as root. On my system it runs as vpostmaster. You need to either have the mail directories and files owned by the dovecot user or ensure that dovecot has group access to both directories and files. And yes I have created new folders with mkdir. As long as you don't mess up the index files you are ok, and even there, you can simply delete and rebuild them. The folder names begin with a '.', so a directory named '.foo' will be a folder named foo. A directory with a name of '.foo.bar' will create a subfolder of the directory foo called bar.
Nataraj
Nataraj wrote:
I would check the ownership and permissions of the mail directories and files. You might also try a different mail client.
All the dovecot mail directories and files are in ~/Maildir , and are owned by me, with all directories having 700 permission, and all files having 664 permssion.
Well that could be your problem.
Thanks again for responding. But the permissions in lower folders, where I can create sub-folders, are exactly the same as the permissions in the top folders, where I cannot.
And yes I have created new folders with mkdir.
Are you using maildir format? If so, do you also create cur, new and tmp sub-directories?
On 03/06/2012 04:09 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Nataraj wrote:
I would check the ownership and permissions of the mail directories and files. You might also try a different mail client.
All the dovecot mail directories and files are in ~/Maildir , and are owned by me, with all directories having 700 permission, and all files having 664 permssion.
Well that could be your problem.
Thanks again for responding. But the permissions in lower folders, where I can create sub-folders, are exactly the same as the permissions in the top folders, where I cannot.
And yes I have created new folders with mkdir.
Are you using maildir format? If so, do you also create cur, new and tmp sub-directories?
Yes I use maildir format. All I did was 'mkdir' a folder called '.test' in the top level of my mail directory and set the ownership and group access so that my dovecot daemon can access it. I then went to my mail client (thunderbird) and copied a message from another folder into .test and it created all of the cur new and tmp directories along with index files. It's no big deal. In my experience dovecot is very forgiving. I've had messed up index files and deleted them and then it recreates them.
Nataraj
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
Thanks again for responding. But the permissions in lower folders, where I can create sub-folders, are exactly the same as the permissions in the top folders, where I cannot.
And yes I have created new folders with mkdir.
Is SELinux active, and if so is the context set correctly?
Les Mikesell wrote:
But the permissions in lower folders, where I can create sub-folders, are exactly the same as the permissions in the top folders, where I cannot.
Is SELinux active, and if so is the context set correctly?
Thanks for the response. No, SELinux is not running: SELINUX=permissive
Incidentally, I haven't seen anyone running CentOS-6 state that they are able to create a top-level folder with Fedora-16/KMail .