I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :) These are all desktop systems, if that makes any difference. With any luck, I'll be able to pave over the installs with CentOS 4.4 and call it a day. :D
Any suggestions on known piles of doodie to step over would be very much appreciated. <g>
Best regards,
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 11:22 -0500, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :) These are all desktop systems, if that makes any difference. With any luck, I'll be able to pave over the installs with CentOS 4.4 and call it a day. :D
I have been using RH, and now Centos for over 10 years. I just put Kubuntu on my desktop. I am impressed so far. It is a Debian derivitive...what is not working?
Edward J. Weinberg wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 11:22 -0500, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :) These are all desktop systems, if that makes any difference. With any luck, I'll be able to pave over the installs with CentOS 4.4 and call it a day. :D
I have been using RH, and now Centos for over 10 years. I just put Kubuntu on my desktop. I am impressed so far. It is a Debian derivitive...what is not working?
Ah. Cool. I haven't been to the site yet. But in typical fashion the problems are reported like "uh...email doesn't work" or "I can't load the Internet" and "We can't print anything". Maybe I'll get lucky and it's just some network infrastructure issue. We'll see.
Thanks again,
Cheers,
chrism@... <chrism@...> writes:
Edward J. Weinberg wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 11:22 -0500, chrism@... wrote:
Ah. Cool. I haven't been to the site yet. But in typical fashion the problems are reported like "uh...email doesn't work" or "I can't load the Internet" and "We can't print anything". Maybe I'll get lucky and it's just some network infrastructure issue. We'll see.
Thanks again,
Cheers,
One WAMP package I used some time back had a limited automated self-test built in to the installation, so it displayed a list of working and non-working components, and since it was trying out underlying infrastructure as well, could give a good idea about what needed fixing.
Sounds like a similar package test for desktop systems would find many takers ! Could build it into a distro so that installer-admins could be told what was broken in technical terms.
Regards, MikeW
MikeW wrote:
One WAMP package I used some time back had a limited automated self-test built in to the installation, so it displayed a list of working and non-working components, and since it was trying out underlying infrastructure as well, could give a good idea about what needed fixing.
Sounds like a similar package test for desktop systems would find many takers ! Could build it into a distro so that installer-admins could be told what was broken in technical terms.
I got a chance to visit the site and it was simply a matter of broken infrastructure. The previous "helper" had "scotchtaped" together a series of bargain basement hubs using a tangle of substandard homemade crossover cables. The fact that it worked at all for some short amount of time is simply amazing. The percentage of collisions must have been pretty close to 100%. Eventually, one of the $59 hubs failed (the one their DSL modem happened to plug into). I gave them an old catalyst 2900 I had laying around, ran some homeruns out to different work areas and re-used some of the cheapo hubs. Ubuntu seemed to work OK for them though. I don't think I'd choose to use it, but it seemed perfectly functional for an M$ Office workstation replacement.
Cheers,
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:22:47 -0500 "chrism@imntv.com" chrism@imntv.com wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :) These are all desktop systems, if that makes any difference. With any luck, I'll be able to pave over the installs with CentOS 4.4 and call it a day. :D
It's excellent, especially as a desktop. For making that is well configured for users including many add-ons go to:
www.ubuntuguide.org
Everything you need to configure is there.
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :)
We maintain a Debian box for internal testing of some code; Assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is intact, as root:
apt-get update apt-get update
should do most things; if you get messages about packages being held back from upgrades, contact me off list (as these are after all Debian type issues), but basically,
dpkg --remove - and - dpkg --configure -a
are your friends.
-- Russ Herrold
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On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 02:48:38PM -0500, R P Herrold wrote:
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, chrism@imntv.com wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :)
We maintain a Debian box for internal testing of some code; Assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is intact, as root:
apt-get update apt-get update <------------
Typo ? I think the second one should be "upgrade", not "update" (the first one is ok).
- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:17 -0200, Rodrigo Barbosa wrote:
I've gotten roped into helping a local charity with some computing/infrastructure snafus. It seems their last good Samaritan installed Ubuntu all over the place and is "unavailable" now to clean up the mess. CentOS has made me somewhat lazy because everything just works out of the box for the most part and you've got the occasional "yum update". :)
We maintain a Debian box for internal testing of some code; Assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is intact, as root:
apt-get update apt-get update <------------
Typo ? I think the second one should be "upgrade", not "update" (the first one is ok).
Yes, 'update' picks up what's currently available from the repositories; 'upgrade' does the work.
Another quirk is that ubuntu normally doesn't let you log in as root, but the first user added is permitted to 'sudo' any command. If you like running as root, you can: sudo su -
Another quirk is that ubuntu normally doesn't let you log in as root, but the first user added is permitted to 'sudo' any command. If you like running as root, you can: sudo su -
sudo -s does the same sudo passwd root will allow you to change the password and log in as root (still can use sudo if you want)
To search for new packages, apt-cache search $search
If you're running ubuntu, you should look into upgrading to 6.06 (dapper) as that has longer term backport support.
Gabriel
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On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 09:07:33PM +0000, first last wrote:
Another quirk is that ubuntu normally doesn't let you log in as root, but the first user added is permitted to 'sudo' any command. If you like running as root, you can: sudo su -
sudo -s does the same
Actually, no it doesn't.
"sudo -s" works like "sudo su", which is different than "sudo su -" (notice the -).
The "-" will make the shell a login shell, thus setting everything you need (including the $PATH variable).
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- -- Rodrigo Barbosa "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)
Any suggestions on known piles of doodie to step over would be very much appreciated. <g>
Best regards,
The biggest thing I have noticed is Ubuntu leaves out some items that CentOS puts in the default install.
For example:
linux kernel headers sshd default firewall
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