The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Does anyone have this version of Google Earth working properly on CentOS 5.2 (32 bit)? If so, did you need to do something extra, to get it to work? TIA! Lanny
Google Earth 4.3.7284.3916 (beta) Build Date Jul 8 2008 Build Time 18:49:58 Renderer OpenGL Operating System Linux (2.6.18.1) Video Driver Tungsten Graphics, Inc Max Texture Size 2048x2048
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
mhr
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
Mark: I got it from google.com I have google among my yum repositories, but I couldn't remember what the package was called, so I couldn't "yum update" and I downloaded and installed their file, but it won't go. It isn't getting any date from the Google Earth servers. That worked perfectly, with the older version I had been using. Lanny
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
Mark: I got it from google.com I have google among my yum repositories, but I couldn't remember what the package was called, so I couldn't "yum update" and I downloaded and installed their file, but it won't go. It isn't getting any date from the Google Earth servers. That worked perfectly, with the older version I had been using. Lanny
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
Hi Folks,
After taking a peek and looking at some of the issues in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/earth-linux/browse_thread/thread/b2a5e...
I thought you guys deserved an update. The long and short of it is that Google Earth 4.3 only works in Linux on machines with processors that support SSE2. This means a P4, A64, or greater is now required. I too was sad to see my little Athlon XP-M machine unable to run 4.3 with all of it's beautiful sunlight and atmosphere effects.
However, I'd like to let you know that we're aware of this and we're looking into getting 4.2 available for you folks!
Thanks for your patience, ERR
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ sudo yum install google-earth Password: Loading "priorities" plugin Loading "fastestmirror" plugin Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * google: dl.google.com * rpmforge: apt.sw.be * extras: mirrors.liquidweb.com * updates: ftp.usf.edu * base: styx.biochem.wfubmc.edu * addons: mirror.linux.duke.edu * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com 282 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments No package google-earth available. Nothing to do [lanny@dell2400 ~]$
Lanny Marcus wrote:
Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2.
this gets fun. AFAIK, there's several generations of Celerons and its quite frustrating to tell them apart from purely a clock speed.
The original Celerons were based on cache reduced P2 Deschutes, and later P3 Coppermine, these had 66Mhz busses, and used socket 370 (or even Slot 1 for the oldest versions). These had MMX and/or SSE depending on the age.
there were Celerons from 2.0 to 2.8Ghz that were 478 pin 400Mhz FSB, and P4 "Northwood" generation technology. I do believe these are SSE2 but I'm having trouble finding definitive documentation of this.
there are also Celeron "D" that are Prescott and can be either socket 478 or LGA775 and run from 2.13 up to 3.33Ghz, using a 533Mhz FSB, these have SSE3.
and nowdays, there are celerons that are based on Core.... really really confusing.
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:34 PM, John R Pierce pierce@hogranch.com wrote:
Lanny Marcus wrote:
Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2.
this gets fun. AFAIK, there's several generations of Celerons and its quite frustrating to tell them apart from purely a clock speed.
The original Celerons were based on cache reduced P2 Deschutes, and later P3 Coppermine, these had 66Mhz busses, and used socket 370 (or even Slot 1 for the oldest versions). These had MMX and/or SSE depending on the age.
there were Celerons from 2.0 to 2.8Ghz that were 478 pin 400Mhz FSB, and P4 "Northwood" generation technology. I do believe these are SSE2 but I'm having trouble finding definitive documentation of this.
there are also Celeron "D" that are Prescott and can be either socket 478 or LGA775 and run from 2.13 up to 3.33Ghz, using a 533Mhz FSB, these have SSE3.
and nowdays, there are celerons that are based on Core.... really really confusing.
John: Thank you for the above explanation! As I just posted, in my reply to Bill, the CPU has a flag for SSE2. I suspect that means that the chip does support SSE2. If so, the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly on it. Lanny
on 8-23-2008 12:08 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:34 PM, John R Pierce pierce-BRp9yk6zKL1Wk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org wrote:
Lanny Marcus wrote:
Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2.
this gets fun. AFAIK, there's several generations of Celerons and its quite frustrating to tell them apart from purely a clock speed.
The original Celerons were based on cache reduced P2 Deschutes, and later P3 Coppermine, these had 66Mhz busses, and used socket 370 (or even Slot 1 for the oldest versions). These had MMX and/or SSE depending on the age.
there were Celerons from 2.0 to 2.8Ghz that were 478 pin 400Mhz FSB, and P4 "Northwood" generation technology. I do believe these are SSE2 but I'm having trouble finding definitive documentation of this.
there are also Celeron "D" that are Prescott and can be either socket 478 or LGA775 and run from 2.13 up to 3.33Ghz, using a 533Mhz FSB, these have SSE3.
and nowdays, there are celerons that are based on Core.... really really confusing.
John: Thank you for the above explanation! As I just posted, in my reply to Bill, the CPU has a flag for SSE2. I suspect that means that the chip does support SSE2. If so, the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly on it. Lanny
Celerons in the last few years are usually just re-branded older generation chips so they can extend the manufacturing cycles of their silicon plants. Every new generation of chips is almost always followed by a new line of celerons with some crippling like smaller cache or clock speed locking based on a previous generations chip.
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 20:00 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
<snip>
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
<snip>
HTH
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:46 AM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 20:00 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
<snip>
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Bill: The data are below. There is a flag for sse2. Does that mean this CPU supports SSE2 or not? If it does support SSE2, that gives me a mystery, about why the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly. Lanny
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2591.741 cache size : 128 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr bogomips : 5185.86
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$
All I can say is, thanks for being confused. I have hated the 4.3.something ver of googleearth since I first installed it. Based on your investigation, I realized that ver 4.3 isn't supposed to work with my Athlon XP 2600+ and didn't look back in getting all the ver 4.3 stuff replaced with 4.2.0205.5730.
Amazingly, I did not find the older version on their site when I initially installed 4.3.
Lanny Marcus wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:46 AM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 20:00 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
<snip>
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Bill: The data are below. There is a flag for sse2. Does that mean this CPU supports SSE2 or not? If it does support SSE2, that gives me a mystery, about why the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly. Lanny
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2591.741 cache size : 128 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr bogomips : 5185.86
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Robert kerplop@sbcglobal.net wrote:
All I can say is, thanks for being confused. I have hated the 4.3.something ver of googleearth since I first installed it. Based on your investigation, I realized that ver 4.3 isn't supposed to work with my Athlon XP 2600+ and didn't look back in getting all the ver 4.3 stuff replaced with 4.2.0205.5730.
Amazingly, I did not find the older version on their site when I initially installed 4.3.
<snip> Robert: Cool..... Since you wrote that you hated the 4.3 version, I'll pass on that one and I will try to look before I leap, before upgrading google earth again... :-) On my Desktop, the 4.3 version launched, but it didn't seem to get any data from the google server(s) and most of the boxes were grayed out. The first time I installed google earth was last December, so my daughter could use NORAD's Santa tracking site. That version worked perfectly. Lanny
On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 14:05 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:46 AM, William L. Maltby
<snip>
Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Bill: The data are below. There is a flag for sse2. Does that mean this CPU supports SSE2 or not? If it does support SSE2, that gives me
What the flag is *supposed* to mean is that SSE2 is supported. However ...
a mystery, about why the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly. Lanny
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2591.741 cache size : 128 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr bogomips : 5185.86
Let us not forget how many moving parts there are here. And let us not overlook past history, like math co-processors that didn't (correctly).
It's not certain that the SSE2 is the issue is it? Regardless, chips go through revisions to fix/enhance things. It is entirely possible that the SSE2 implementation on that chip is flawed. The application software can also be the cause. Use the stepping number of the chip to google around and see if there's any record of problems.
I would also google for any little utils that test the SSE2 instruction set. Not because I think there's a problem, but because it would be a preemptive strike when the support folks say the problem is that your CPU doesn't properly support SSE2. It'll probably be DOS based.
Most good software includes tests and "emulators" for some missing "features". I would suspect either the software is not properly detecting that you have SSE2 of it has some other fundamental problem, like library versions, kernel features not enabled, etc.
A good handle might be obtained by running it with strace and see where the problem occurs, if possible.
Then folks having greater expertise than I might be able to help pinpoint the problem.
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$
<snip sisg stuff>
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:46 AM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 14:05 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:46 AM, William L. Maltby
<snip>
Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Bill: The data are below. There is a flag for sse2. Does that mean this CPU supports SSE2 or not? If it does support SSE2, that gives me
What the flag is *supposed* to mean is that SSE2 is supported. However ...
a mystery, about why the latest version of Google Earth wouldn't run properly. Lanny
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz stepping : 9 cpu MHz : 2591.741 cache size : 128 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr bogomips : 5185.86
Let us not forget how many moving parts there are here. And let us not overlook past history, like math co-processors that didn't (correctly).
It's not certain that the SSE2 is the issue is it? Regardless, chips go through revisions to fix/enhance things. It is entirely possible that the SSE2 implementation on that chip is flawed. The application software can also be the cause. Use the stepping number of the chip to google around and see if there's any record of problems.
I would also google for any little utils that test the SSE2 instruction set. Not because I think there's a problem, but because it would be a preemptive strike when the support folks say the problem is that your CPU doesn't properly support SSE2. It'll probably be DOS based.
Most good software includes tests and "emulators" for some missing "features". I would suspect either the software is not properly detecting that you have SSE2 of it has some other fundamental problem, like library versions, kernel features not enabled, etc.
A good handle might be obtained by running it with strace and see where the problem occurs, if possible.
Then folks having greater expertise than I might be able to help pinpoint the problem.
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$
Bill: Thank you for all of the above information. I googled for the CPU and stepping number and looking quickly at the results, I don't think it is a problematic CPU. Will look into the other things you suggested. I'm curious as to why the latest Google Earth for Linux won't run on it, but, as you pointed out, it could easily be that the Application software is flawed and if that is the cause, it won't fly. We have one Google Application that comes with a small version of WINE, to run on Linux, but I think that is Google Picasa and not Google Earth. Lanny
on 8-22-2008 6:00 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM, MHR mhullrich-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
Mark: I got it from google.com I have google among my yum repositories, but I couldn't remember what the package was called, so I couldn't "yum update" and I downloaded and installed their file, but it won't go. It isn't getting any date from the Google Earth servers. That worked perfectly, with the older version I had been using. Lanny
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2
on 8-25-2008 11:36 AM Scott Silva spake the following:
on 8-22-2008 6:00 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
Mark: I got it from google.com I have google among my yum repositories, but I couldn't remember what the package was called, so I couldn't "yum update" and I downloaded and installed their file, but it won't go. It isn't getting any date from the Google Earth servers. That worked perfectly, with the older version I had been using. Lanny
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2
I guess I need to finish reading the thread before I reply. ;-D
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 12:49 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
<snip a BIG bunch>
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2
I guess I need to finish reading the thread before I reply. ;-D
He-he! And don't let things distract you from snipping! ;-)
<snip>
With good cheer,
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:25 PM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 12:49 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
<snip a BIG bunch>
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2
I guess I need to finish reading the thread before I reply. ;-D
He-he! And don't let things distract you from snipping! ;-)
I'll try to snip more.
on 8-25-2008 1:25 PM William L. Maltby spake the following: <little_snip>
I guess I need to finish reading the thread before I reply. ;-D
He-he! And don't let things distract you from snipping! ;-)
Got it! More snipping, less sipping! ;-P
<snip>
With good cheer,
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
on 8-22-2008 6:00 PM Lanny Marcus spake the following:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:48 PM, MHR mhullrich-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
The version of Google Earth I installed last December was working great this morning. Then, I decided to update to the latest version and when I tried to do that with yum, I didn't have the right name for the package (now, I think it may be "google-earth"), so I downloaded the file (GoogleEarthLinux.bin) and installed with "sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin" The latest version is now installed and I can launch it, without any problem, but, it does not seem to work......... :-)
Where did you get this?
Mark: I got it from google.com I have google among my yum repositories, but I couldn't remember what the package was called, so I couldn't "yum update" and I downloaded and installed their file, but it won't go. It isn't getting any date from the Google Earth servers. That worked perfectly, with the older version I had been using. Lanny
I tried to install google-earth with yum but either that isn't the name of the package or it is not available in the Google repository. Then, I did some reading on the Google site. Question: How do I determine whether or not the CPU in this box (I think it's an Intel Celeron 2.6 GHz) supports SSE2 or not? I suspect the CPU does *not* support SSE2. Posting some information below:
Try cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2
[lanny@dell2400 ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep sse2 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up cid xtpr [lanny@dell2400 ~]$
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