Hi: RHEL 8.3 doesn't offer extended update support, so it seems be EOL this month. but centos8 will be supported until December. so will there be centos 8.4, or centos 8.3 will do the extend update support itself?
On 5/6/21 4:22 AM, d tbsky wrote:
Hi: RHEL 8.3 doesn't offer extended update support, so it seems be EOL this month. but centos8 will be supported until December. so will there be centos 8.4, or centos 8.3 will do the extend update support itself?
I will be working on CentOS 8.4 updates once the source code is released.
Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org
On 5/6/21 4:22 AM, d tbsky wrote:
Hi: RHEL 8.3 doesn't offer extended update support, so it seems be EOL this month. but centos8 will be supported until December. so will there be centos 8.4, or centos 8.3 will do the extend update support itself?
I will be working on CentOS 8.4 updates once the source code is released.
thanks for confirmation. so at least will have the last CentOS version. then we can decide where to go.
On 5/6/21 12:03 PM, d tbsky wrote:
Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org
On 5/6/21 4:22 AM, d tbsky wrote:
Hi: RHEL 8.3 doesn't offer extended update support, so it seems be EOL this month. but centos8 will be supported until December. so will there be centos 8.4, or centos 8.3 will do the extend update support itself?
I will be working on CentOS 8.4 updates once the source code is released.
thanks for confirmation. so at least will have the last CentOS version. then we can decide where to go.
depending on the release date of RHEL 8.5 .. I 'MIGHT' be able to finish that one and get it into vault.centos.org as well. I will try to do that if possible.
On 10/05/2021 18:11, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 5/6/21 12:03 PM, d tbsky wrote:
Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org
On 5/6/21 4:22 AM, d tbsky wrote:
Hi: RHEL 8.3 doesn't offer extended update support, so it seems be EOL this month. but centos8 will be supported until December. so will there be centos 8.4, or centos 8.3 will do the extend update support itself?
I will be working on CentOS 8.4 updates once the source code is released.
thanks for confirmation. so at least will have the last CentOS version. then we can decide where to go.
depending on the release date of RHEL 8.5 .. I 'MIGHT' be able to finish that one and get it into vault.centos.org as well. I will try to do that if possible.
Talking about that : what's the official position on how CentOS 8 will go EOL ? I'd be myself in favor of transparently redirecting CentOS 8 linux yum/dnf mirrorlists to 8-stream end of the year, so that people would still get automatically updates and would be able to "dnf install <bla>"
I'd prefer that over a "mirrorlist.centos.org answering <invalid arch / release combination>" and so breaking existing installs.
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:47 AM Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
Talking about that : what's the official position on how CentOS 8 will go EOL ? I'd be myself in favor of transparently redirecting CentOS 8 linux yum/dnf mirrorlists to 8-stream end of the year, so that people would still get automatically updates and would be able to "dnf install <bla>"
I'd prefer that over a "mirrorlist.centos.org answering <invalid arch / release combination>" and so breaking existing installs.
There is already a process that was recently used for CentOS 6, which is to have people use the repos at vault.centos.org if they need them. Changing them to Stream could break things in very unexpected ways, which would be worse than simply having them no longer provide updates. IMO it's better to not respond and create an error to be investigated and fixed by moving to the vault repo if desired, or a different 3rd party repo provider. At that point it is clearly an issue with the repo. Random problems cropping up with broken packages will be much harder to trace back and will cause all sorts of people seeking help to fix their then broken CentOS 8 systems to come out of the woodwork.
On 5/10/21 11:59 AM, Jon Pruente wrote:
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:47 AM Fabian Arrotin arrfab@centos.org wrote:
Talking about that : what's the official position on how CentOS 8 will go EOL ? I'd be myself in favor of transparently redirecting CentOS 8 linux yum/dnf mirrorlists to 8-stream end of the year, so that people would still get automatically updates and would be able to "dnf install <bla>"
I'd prefer that over a "mirrorlist.centos.org answering <invalid arch / release combination>" and so breaking existing installs.
There is already a process that was recently used for CentOS 6, which is to have people use the repos at vault.centos.org if they need them. Changing them to Stream could break things in very unexpected ways, which would be worse than simply having them no longer provide updates. IMO it's better to not respond and create an error to be investigated and fixed by moving to the vault repo if desired, or a different 3rd party repo provider. At that point it is clearly an issue with the repo. Random problems cropping up with broken packages will be much harder to trace back and will cause all sorts of people seeking help to fix their then broken CentOS 8 systems to come out of the woodwork.
Using vault will be bad .. no security updates after EOL. I would technically WORK .. but the packages will become outdated.
You will need to either shift to CentOS Stream, RHEL, or another source rebuild like Alma Linux after EOL.
I don't think we will do an automated shift though to either.
On 11/05/21 4:47 am, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
Talking about that : what's the official position on how CentOS 8 will go EOL ? I'd be myself in favor of transparently redirecting CentOS 8 linux yum/dnf mirrorlists to 8-stream end of the year, so that people would still get automatically updates and would be able to "dnf install <bla>"
Can we not do this? It could make migrating away from CentOS more difficult for those who choose to switch to another EL8.
Peter
On 5/10/21 2:46 PM, Peter wrote:
On 11/05/21 4:47 am, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
Talking about that : what's the official position on how CentOS 8 will go EOL ? I'd be myself in favor of transparently redirecting CentOS 8 linux yum/dnf mirrorlists to 8-stream end of the year, so that people would still get automatically updates and would be able to "dnf install <bla>"
Can we not do this? It could make migrating away from CentOS more difficult for those who choose to switch to another EL8.
I agree .. so if anything automated is done, it would be done at a time that is significantly after the EOL to give people time to see errors and do their own migration. At least that is the normal way we would handle it.
People should move somewhere well before the EOL date though. as there will be no updates and things will become outdated.
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