Where would be an appropriate place to get help with the quirks of RHEL7 beta, particularly GUI usability issues? Gnome3 won't work under x2go, so I'm trying to use KDE but can't believe that anyone actually uses borderless windows where you can't tell where you are clicking near the edges, grey-background terminals or the default font set. So there must be some other themes or a lot that I don't know about it.
On 3/11/2014 8:45 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
an appropriate place to get help with the quirks of RHEL7 beta, particularly GUI usability issues? Gn
I believe this may help:
https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions?keyword=&name=&product=Al...
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:38:52 -0700 Edward M wrote:
On 3/11/2014 8:45 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
an appropriate place to get help with the quirks of RHEL7 beta, particularly GUI usability issues? Gn
I believe this may help:https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions?keyword=&name=&product=Al...
From: https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions/443233 "Red Hat Customer Portal Discussions are open to the public and can be viewed by everyone, but you must have a Red Hat Subscription to post and participate."
If you're just a Centos user who's trying out the RHEL7 beta, you're apparently outta luck.
On 03/11/2014 11:46 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:38:52 -0700 Edward M wrote:
On 3/11/2014 8:45 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
an appropriate place to get help with the quirks of RHEL7 beta, particularly GUI usability issues? Gn
I believe this may help:https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions?keyword=&name=&product=Al...
From: https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions/443233 "Red Hat Customer Portal Discussions are open to the public and can be viewed by everyone, but you must have a Red Hat Subscription to post and participate."
If you're just a Centos user who's trying out the RHEL7 beta, you're apparently outta luck.
or use this list :)
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
an appropriate place to get help with the quirks of
RHEL7 beta, particularly GUI usability issues? Gn
I believe this may help:https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions?keyword=&name=&product=Al...
From: https://access.redhat.com/site/discussions/443233 "Red Hat Customer Portal Discussions are open to the public and can be viewed by everyone, but you must have a Red Hat Subscription to post and participate."
If you're just a Centos user who's trying out the RHEL7 beta, you're apparently outta luck.
or use this list :)
If other people have the same problems, maybe some of the answers will show up in the RHEL 7 discussions anyway, But, since the problems will eventually be CentOS problems, if anyone else is trying the beta, what is the best 'remote desktop' approach (x2go in epel works, but only with KDE), what fonts do you use, and if you use kde, how do you get visible borders on your windows?
Hey all, just checking in here after downloading the RHEL7 beta yesterday and installing it.
I guess there won't be a CentOS7 until after RHEL7 is released, is that right?
You guys don't do beta?
I'm already frustrated by the Red-Hat-isms in the beta, like all the subscription stuff.
thanks, -Alan
On 04/01/2014 09:55 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
Hey all, just checking in here after downloading the RHEL7 beta yesterday and installing it.
I guess there won't be a CentOS7 until after RHEL7 is released, is that right?
You guys don't do beta?
I'm already frustrated by the Red-Hat-isms in the beta, like all the subscription stuff.
Just remove all the subscription-manager and rhn packages ..
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
Just remove all the subscription-manager and rhn packages ..
Hmmmm, you crazy nut :-)
So I'll still be able to yum OK?
On 01/04/14 12:15 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
Just remove all the subscription-manager and rhn packages ..
Hmmmm, you crazy nut :-)
So I'll still be able to yum OK?
I have to add the DVD as a repo. Here's what I do:
These steps assume the beta DVD is on an internal web-accessible server, that it's saved in /root and mounted at /mnt/dvd. Adjust as needed:
mkdir /mnt/dvd cd ~ curl -O http://10.255.255.250/rhel7/x86_64/iso/rhel-7-public-beta-x86_64-dvd.iso echo "/root/rhel-7-public-beta-x86_64-dvd.iso /mnt/dvd auto loop 0 0" >> /etc/fstab mount /mnt/dvd
Create the repo file:
vi /etc/yum.repos.d/dvd.repo ==== [dvd] baseurl=file:///mnt/dvd/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-redhat-beta ====
Clean up the yum cache
yum clean all
Now you should be able to use yum to install packages easily from the DVD ISO.
On 04/01/2014 11:23 AM, Digimer wrote:
On 01/04/14 12:15 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
Just remove all the subscription-manager and rhn packages ..
Hmmmm, you crazy nut :-)
So I'll still be able to yum OK?
I have to add the DVD as a repo. Here's what I do:
You shouldn't need to do this. There should be a redhat.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d
You simply need to enable the repo listed in it to use yum for the beta packages.
On 4/2/2014 07:16, Jim Perrin wrote:
I have to add the DVD as a repo. Here's what I do:
You shouldn't need to do this. There should be a redhat.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d
I didn't have such a thing on the RHEL7 beta VM I set up, nor on the RHEL7 RC I just set up. /etc/yum.repos.d was empty on both machines after installation, and "yum repolist all" reports "repolist: 0".
Perhaps it only appears if you attach a RHN subscription to the machine?
Digimer's DVD repo method misses out on a lot of packages since the ISO files don't include the "optional" package set. A big chunk of these are things like -devel packages corresponding to library packages, so if you're a software developer, the DVD/ISO contents are likely to be insufficient.
My method:
1. Mount the ISO or DVD on the machine, find the Packages directory, and copy it into /var/www/html/rhel7rc on one of the LAN's web servers.
(Putting it on a separate web server allows the repo to have a lifetime independent of the RHEL7 test system, and also allows you to share the repo among multiple test systems.)
2. From /var/www/html/rhel7rc on the web server, say:
rsync -rv rsync://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Server-optional/x86_64/os/Packages .
This step downloads another ~2.1 GB of RPMs beyond what came on the installation DVD, merging thousands more RPMs into the set you copied from the DVD/ISO.
Substitute your OS edition for "Server" as necessary. Ditto CPU type.
3. Create the repo:
cd /var/www/html/rhel7rc createrepo .
When this completes, "ls /var/www/html/rhel7rc" should report:
Packages repodata
If you skip this step or don't do it right, yum won't chase dependencies properly.
4. Create /etc/yum.repos.d/rhel7rc.repo on the RHEL7 box:
[rhel7rc] name=RHEL7 RC local mirror baseurl=http://rhel7rc/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-redhat-release
"rhel7rc" is a CNAME or /etc/hosts alias for the web server. We need to use such an alias because the next step is:
5. Save the following as /etc/httpd/conf.d/rhel7rc.conf:
<VirtualHost *:80> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/rhel7rc ServerAlias rhel7rc
<Directory "/var/www/html/rhel7rc"> Allow from all AllowOverride None Options +Indexes Order allow,deny </Directory> </VirtualHost>
Then say "service httpd restart".
At this point, your new local mirror of RHEL7 RC should work.
(If you're wondering why I took the time to write all this up, it's because I figured it out back in December when the beta came out, then forgot a bunch of details in the ~4 months it took for the RC to come out and had to rediscover a bunch of it. If nothing else, this way I'll have a reference I can dig out of my email Sent folder the next time I need to do this.)
I didn't have such a thing on the RHEL7 beta VM I set up, nor on the RHEL7 RC I just set up. /etc/yum.repos.d was empty on both machines after installation, and "yum repolist all" reports "repolist: 0".
Perhaps it only appears if you attach a RHN subscription to the machine?
Snip...
(If you're wondering why I took the time to write all this up, it's because I figured it out back in December when the beta came out, then forgot a bunch of details in the ~4 months it took for the RC to come out and had to rediscover a bunch of it. If nothing else, this way I'll have a reference I can dig out of my email Sent folder the next time I need to do this.)
+1 Nice write up thanks for documenting this!
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Warren Young warren@etr-usa.com wrote:
You shouldn't need to do this. There should be a redhat.repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d
I didn't have such a thing on the RHEL7 beta VM I set up, nor on the RHEL7 RC I just set up. /etc/yum.repos.d was empty on both machines after installation, and "yum repolist all" reports "repolist: 0".
Perhaps it only appears if you attach a RHN subscription to the machine?
No. It has been a while but I'm pretty sure when I installed on a laptop I ended up with rhel-beta.repo and all I did was to set enabled=1 in the [rhel-beta] section to be able to install additional packages. Yum complains that the system is 'not registered' if I try to update (and there aren't any updates), but installing packages works.
That repo file came from this package: yum info redhat-release-everything Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, subscription-manager This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can use subscription-manager to register. Installed Packages Name : redhat-release-everything Arch : x86_64 Version : 7.0 Release : 0.6.el7 Size : 38 k Repo : installed
From repo : anaconda
Summary : Red Hat Enterprise Linux Everything release file License : GPLv2 Description : Red Hat Enterprise Linux Everything release files
On 4/23/2014 12:57, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Warren Young warren@etr-usa.com wrote:
Perhaps it only appears if you attach a RHN subscription to the machine?
No. It has been a while but I'm pretty sure when I installed on a laptop I ended up with rhel-beta.repo
I just reinstalled my RHEL7 RC test VM, and it still doesn't have any repositories configured.
That repo file came from this package: yum info redhat-release-everything
The corresponding package in my VM is redhat-release-server:
$ rpm -ql redhat-release-server | grep -c repos 0
(The "everything" ISO isn't being offered for the RC, apparently.)
On 4/23/2014 12:37, Warren Young wrote:
Save the following as /etc/httpd/conf.d/rhel7rc.conf:
<VirtualHost *:80> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/rhel7rc ServerAlias rhel7rc
That should be ServerName, so that Apache serves from the rhel7rc directory only if you call it as "rhel7rc". With the alias alone, this can takes over all port 80 serving. (Depends on the order the *.conf files are loaded.)
This one might be more of a GNOME3 question. I'm running the RHEL7 beta on a laptop where I used to run windows xp. It's a Dell Latitude w/docking station and the dock has a coax/digital sound output. On windows, it would automatically switch to the analog headphone jack if I plugged headphones in. With linux there is a widget in the top bar on GNOME that has the volume control and a 'sound settings' option that I can open and pick digital or headphone output but it has to be done manually. Is there any way to get the windows behavior of using headphone output whenever they are plugged in?
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
This one might be more of a GNOME3 question. I'm running the RHEL7 beta on a laptop where I used to run windows xp. It's a Dell Latitude w/docking station and the dock has a coax/digital sound output. On windows, it would automatically switch to the analog headphone jack if I plugged headphones in. With linux there is a widget in the top bar on GNOME that has the volume control and a 'sound settings' option that I can open and pick digital or headphone output but it has to be done manually. Is there any way to get the windows behavior of using headphone output whenever they are plugged in?
While I can't speak for RHEL7, the expected behavior is seen when using GNOME3 under Fedora.
When I plug in my headphones to the 3.5mm jack, a small headphone icon shows up to the right of the speaker icon.
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:26 AM, SilverTip257 silvertip257@gmail.com wrote:
This one might be more of a GNOME3 question. I'm running the RHEL7 beta on a laptop where I used to run windows xp. It's a Dell Latitude w/docking station and the dock has a coax/digital sound output. On windows, it would automatically switch to the analog headphone jack if I plugged headphones in. With linux there is a widget in the top bar on GNOME that has the volume control and a 'sound settings' option that I can open and pick digital or headphone output but it has to be done manually. Is there any way to get the windows behavior of using headphone output whenever they are plugged in?
While I can't speak for RHEL7, the expected behavior is seen when using GNOME3 under Fedora.
When I plug in my headphones to the 3.5mm jack, a small headphone icon shows up to the right of the speaker icon.
Running the RC now - I get the headphone icon if I am already switched to analog and the expanded sound settings window shows 'speakers' before I plug in. The larger picture switches to headphones too. And if I am switched to headphones and remove the headphone jack it auto-switches to digital output (spdif). The part that still seems missing is that if it is on spdif and I plug the headphones in, nothing happens. It is sort of an odd setup where the spdif jack is in a docking station, but windows did the auto-switch both directions.
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
On 05/07/2014 01:34 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
ELrepo's nvidia drivers, once they're available for 7, if they're not already.
On 07/05/14 18:48, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 05/07/2014 01:34 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
ELrepo's nvidia drivers, once they're available for 7, if they're not already.
They are not available yet.
I aim to release them when RHEL7 is released.
If people want to help develop them (test and feedback) then the elrepo-devel mailing list is probably the best place for that discussion.
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ned Slider ned@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and
wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
ELrepo's nvidia drivers, once they're available for 7, if they're not already.
They are not available yet.
The one from Nvidia built/installed OK and I'm not too concerned about future updates since I'll reinstall when Centos7 is released anyway. Looks much better at native resolution. But it would have been nicer if the initial RHEL install steps had actually fit on the screen instead of having to pan around to find the buttons.
On 08/05/14 16:04, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ned Slider ned@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and
wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
ELrepo's nvidia drivers, once they're available for 7, if they're not already.
They are not available yet.
The one from Nvidia built/installed OK and I'm not too concerned about future updates since I'll reinstall when Centos7 is released anyway. Looks much better at native resolution. But it would have been nicer if the initial RHEL install steps had actually fit on the screen instead of having to pan around to find the buttons.
Indeed.
Have you filed a bug with RH. If so, please link it here so I can track it.
Thank you.
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ned Slider ned@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
On 08/05/14 16:04, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ned Slider ned@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and
wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed?
ELrepo's nvidia drivers, once they're available for 7, if they're not already.
They are not available yet.
The one from Nvidia built/installed OK and I'm not too concerned about future updates since I'll reinstall when Centos7 is released anyway. Looks much better at native resolution. But it would have been nicer if the initial RHEL install steps had actually fit on the screen instead of having to pan around to find the buttons.
Indeed.
Have you filed a bug with RH. If so, please link it here so I can track it.
No, I don't have a login there. lspci says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86M [Quadro NVS 135M] (rev a1) and I think the 1440x900 screen might have been an upgrade option.
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