Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the xserver don't start. There is a throuble with the amd es1000 driver. This grafic card, seems not supported more from amd. I need a minimalistic gui for study for rhcsa certification. The gui is mandatory for the exam.
Any help?
Paride
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:56 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the xserver don't start. There is a throuble with the amd es1000 driver. This grafic card, seems not supported more from amd. I need a minimalistic gui for study for rhcsa certification. The gui is mandatory for the exam.
Any help?
Paride
for a different system, but with low end graphic card too, I had success going to graphical target during installation modifying the initial kernel line removing the "quiet" word and adding
inst.xdriver=fbdev inst.resolution=1024x768
PS: 1024x768 is the lowest resolution usable.
HIH, Gianluca
Uhm, X dont't start :-(
Il mer 17 giu 2020, 15:34 Gianluca Cecchi gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:56 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, i have a proliant dl380 g5, with an amd as1000. I try to install centos8 with gui, but when try to start the new installed system, the xserver don't start. There is a throuble with the amd es1000 driver. This grafic card, seems not supported more from amd. I need a minimalistic gui for study for rhcsa certification. The gui is mandatory for the exam.
Any help?
Paride
for a different system, but with low end graphic card too, I had success going to graphical target during installation modifying the initial kernel line removing the "quiet" word and adding
inst.xdriver=fbdev inst.resolution=1024x768
PS: 1024x768 is the lowest resolution usable.
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:13 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
Uhm, X dont't start :-(
I overlooked your post... my suggestions was for installation phase, but you did install apparently.. did you install in graphic mode or by other text based means (kickstart, pxe, ecc)? Or perhaps you installed xorg related packages afterward? Can you post your logs and the related errors? Do you have gdm login at boot or not at all?
Gianluca
I have installed in graphic mode, but I have not install gui. I try to install X afterward, because I have buied the Sander Van Vugt book: "red hat rhcsa 8 ex200". In this book, Sander, write that the exam ex200 is in gui mode and not in text. Ok I try to reinstall and pass your information to grub. Amd is a nightmare for the gpu in linux.
Il mer 17 giu 2020, 18:27 Gianluca Cecchi gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:13 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
Uhm, X dont't start :-(
I overlooked your post... my suggestions was for installation phase, but you did install apparently.. did you install in graphic mode or by other text based means (kickstart, pxe, ecc)? Or perhaps you installed xorg related packages afterward? Can you post your logs and the related errors? Do you have gdm login at boot or not at all?
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
I have installed in graphic mode, but I have not install gui. I try to install X afterward, because I have buied the Sander Van Vugt book: "red hat rhcsa 8 ex200". In this book, Sander, write that the exam ex200 is in gui mode and not in text. Ok I try to reinstall and pass your information to grub. Amd is a nightmare for the gpu in linux.
If you were able to install in graphic mode you can also install as before without any additional kernel command line option but specifying "Workstation" or "Server with GUI" in the Base Environment pane and try and see if it automagically configure the Xorg resolution and such in a good / usable way...
Gianluca
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the gui, but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu. I hate ati video card.
Paride
Il gio 18 giu 2020, 18:56 Gianluca Cecchi gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com ha scritto:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
I have installed in graphic mode, but I have not install gui. I try to install X afterward, because I have buied the Sander Van Vugt book: "red hat rhcsa 8 ex200". In this book, Sander, write that the exam ex200 is in gui mode and not in text. Ok I try to reinstall and pass your information to grub. Amd is a nightmare for the gpu in linux.
If you were able to install in graphic mode you can also install as before without any additional kernel command line option but specifying "Workstation" or "Server with GUI" in the Base Environment pane and try and see if it automagically configure the Xorg resolution and such in a good / usable way...
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the gui, but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial installation and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
On 6/18/20 3:47 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the gui, but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial installation and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
Ah, I love your good answer. I remember this from the past:
Why my $20 adaptec RAID card (they were "software" RAID) doesn't work as well (if at all) as your $700 3ware or LSI (megaraid) or Areca card?
;-)
Valeri
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:55 PM Valeri Galtsev galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote:
Ah, I love your good answer. I remember this from the past:
Why my $20 adaptec RAID card (they were "software" RAID) doesn't work as well (if at all) as your $700 3ware or LSI (megaraid) or Areca card?
actually, I prefer the LSI 'HBA' cards in IT mode, with the raid functionality completely disabled, and use the host OS's storage management, ZFS on FreeBSD or mdraid+lvm on Linux. Only place I would use a 'true' RAID controller would be on a Windows Server as Windows software raid is awful, ok, and on a VMware ESXi server, as its storage management is awful, too. But on that latter, I would MUCH rather use NAS/SAN storage. And on the Windows server, I would much rather it be virtualized.
On 6/18/20 4:10 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:55 PM Valeri Galtsev galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote:
Ah, I love your good answer. I remember this from the past:
Why my $20 adaptec RAID card (they were "software" RAID) doesn't work as well (if at all) as your $700 3ware or LSI (megaraid) or Areca card?
actually, I prefer the LSI 'HBA' cards in IT mode, with the raid functionality completely disabled, and use the host OS's storage management, ZFS on FreeBSD or mdraid+lvm on Linux. Only place I would use a 'true' RAID controller would be on a Windows Server as Windows software raid is awful, ok, and on a VMware ESXi server, as its storage management is awful, too. But on that latter, I would MUCH rather use NAS/SAN storage. And on the Windows server, I would much rather it be virtualized.
Well, everybody's mileage varies. If one is going to use zfs, then no hardware RAID can beat that, i.e., zfs ensures data integrity, whereas hardware RAID can sometimes guess, which stripe on which physical drive has corrupt data, but not always. On the other hand, if one refuses to use zfs, as it is owned by Oracle now, so one alleges its future is unpredictable, then it is only a question of "taste", some may argue software RAID is better, others: hardware RAID is better. The last would be me; my argument: hardware RAID has dedicated processing hardware and very short, hence well debugged software as opposed to the whole system that is capable affect software RAID. All in all, I do not suggest everybody accept my argument as correct, as I said, is a question of taste for me. Or, borrowing the phrase of my friend "you go your church, I go mine" ;-)
Anyway, it is distributed file systems now, whenever we go for big storage...
Thanks. Valeri
On 6/18/20 3:47 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the gui, but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial installation and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
There seems to be no support for this graphic card for Linux by AMD/ATI that I can see.
Your only option (as i see it), is either a standalone graphics card or somehow using the VESA generic driver.
What is the name of the vesa driver, or what is the name of the package that contains it?
Paride
Il ven 19 giu 2020, 14:58 Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org ha scritto:
On 6/18/20 3:47 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com
wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the
gui,
but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial installation and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
There seems to be no support for this graphic card for Linux by AMD/ATI that I can see.
Your only option (as i see it), is either a standalone graphics card or somehow using the VESA generic driver.
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On 6/19/20 11:26 AM, paride desimone wrote:
What is the name of the vesa driver, or what is the name of the package that contains it?
package name: xorg-x11-drv-vesa
i would start by trying this on the grub2 kernel line:
nomodeset xdriver=vesa
Paride
Il ven 19 giu 2020, 14:58 Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org ha scritto:
On 6/18/20 3:47 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com
wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the
gui,
but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial installation and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
There seems to be no support for this graphic card for Linux by AMD/ATI that I can see.
Your only option (as i see it), is either a standalone graphics card or somehow using the VESA generic driver.
Allright , X and Gnome is up. Thank you very much.
Paride
Il ven 19 giu 2020, 19:10 Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org ha scritto:
On 6/19/20 11:26 AM, paride desimone wrote:
What is the name of the vesa driver, or what is the name of the package that contains it?
package name: xorg-x11-drv-vesa
i would start by trying this on the grub2 kernel line:
nomodeset xdriver=vesa
Paride
Il ven 19 giu 2020, 14:58 Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org ha scritto:
On 6/18/20 3:47 PM, John Pierce wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 11:04 AM paride desimone parided@gmail.com
wrote:
The throuble is the radeon driver. I've already tried to install the
gui,
but the system hung on start gui. The es1000 is a shit gpu.
those are just intended to provide a minimal VGA for initial
installation
and configuration of a server, they were never intended for use as a workstation. They are a Rage 6, not really a Radeon, they have very limited 3D capability, with no shaders.
There seems to be no support for this graphic card for Linux by AMD/ATI that I can see.
Your only option (as i see it), is either a standalone graphics card or somehow using the VESA generic driver.
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